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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1050 on: December 21, 2012, 01:10:57 am »
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Hey guys, some help for this thing would be great:

z2 = a + bi
Let z = x + yi
Thus (x+yi)2 = a + bi
x2-y2 + 2xyi = a + bi
Therefore x2-y2 = a
        and 2xy = b

Find x2 in terms of a and b?

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1051 on: December 21, 2012, 01:25:51 am »
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x^2-y^2 = a   and    2xy = b
Hence, y = b/2x
=> y^2 = b^2/4x^2
Hence, x^2 - b^2/4x^2 = a
=> x^4 - b^2/4 = ax^2
=> x^4 - ax^2 - b^2/4 = 0

That's a quadratic for x^2, but I think the solution is going to be a bit ugly haha :P

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« Reply #1052 on: December 21, 2012, 01:29:26 am »
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x^2-y^2 = a   and    2xy = b
Hence, y = b/2x
=> y^2 = b^2/4x^2
Hence, x^2 - b^2/4x^2 = a
=> x^4 - b^2/4 = ax^2
=> x^4 - ax^2 - b^2/4 = 0

That's a quadratic for x^2, but I think the solution is going to be a bit ugly haha :P

Yeah I got there but would there any neater ways to do it?
My working is going to look disgusting :S

EDIT: actually it looks okay
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1053 on: December 22, 2012, 05:31:59 pm »
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if is a factor of , how would i find the remaining factors?
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1054 on: December 22, 2012, 05:36:05 pm »
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if is a factor of , how would i find the remaining factors?

Steps:
- Well, as (z-3i) is a factoryou then know that (z+3i) is also a factor.
- Hence, you would know that (z-3i)(z+3i)=(z^2 + 9) is a factor.
- From here, you can long divide or factorise in another way (your choice) to find the other quadratic factor
- Then factorise that (or jump to the quadratic formula) to find the final two linear factors :)

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1055 on: December 22, 2012, 05:36:51 pm »
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I'm not exactly sure, but I think you could apply long division, the factor theorem and the remainder theorem (much like cubics in Methods). Give it a go and let me know if it works. :)

EDIT: pi confirmed what I was thinking anyway. ^_^
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1056 on: December 22, 2012, 05:39:40 pm »
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Since the coefficients of the expression are real, then each complex factor will have a conjugate, that is also a factor, i.e. is also a factor. From that if you divide through by the two factors we have you should get a quadratic, that you can factorise to find the last 2 factors.

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1057 on: December 22, 2012, 05:42:36 pm »
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if is a factor of , how would i find the remaining factors?


The important piece of theory is that if a polynomial with REAL coefficient has a complex root, the conjugate of this root is also a root of the polynomial.

Here 3i is a root, therefore so is -3i
x-3i is a factor, x+3i is a factor
(x-3i)(x+3i) is a factor, therefore x^2 + 9 is a factor.

One way to proceed from here is long division of x^2 + 9 into the original polynomial.
The remainder is a quadratic which you can easily factorise

Alternatively, you can ignore my answer and go the one above :)

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1058 on: December 22, 2012, 07:53:42 pm »
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thanks heaps guys. I worked out the z^2+9 but i wasn't comfortable doing the long division. could someone please help me from there :) 
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« Reply #1059 on: December 22, 2012, 08:49:00 pm »
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Let

Expanding gives


So
and

Hence
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« Reply #1060 on: December 23, 2012, 10:24:30 am »
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I get it. thanks guys :)
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« Reply #1061 on: December 23, 2012, 11:25:07 am »
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Also by using the quadratic formula or by using the method of factorizing of polynomials in C,

(2z^2-4z+3) would break down into

so in total there are 4 solutions


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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1062 on: December 27, 2012, 01:51:50 am »
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Let

Expanding gives


So
and

Hence

Similarly, if you write out you can "by inspection" work out the other factor, by imagining what the expanded product of the two factors would look like. (Exact same method as that of Climbtoohigh, but could be used if you can manage the numbers in your head/scrap piece of paper, could possibly be quicker.)
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« Reply #1063 on: December 27, 2012, 09:55:21 am »
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If

show that
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« Reply #1064 on: December 27, 2012, 11:28:56 am »
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 Assuming , then , so the result holds iff