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Re: Am I an idiot?
« Reply #45 on: October 01, 2010, 07:35:08 am »
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Nice bump dude ;]
I fail to see how people manage to stumble upon these 7 month old topics

May as well contribute while I'm here, I completely agree with kyzoo, if you can learn concepts yourself, tutors would only be a hinderance.
Tutoring was the worst decision I made in VCE. I started the year thinking a tutor was an absolute necessity in getting a high ENTER. I came here, got a tutor for every one of my subjects (two for english), went to engage etc. Most of them could teach pretty good (Truetears (h)) but I'd come home at 9pm on some weekdays and waste my whole weekends learning things I could have just picked up by reading the damn textbook. Ended up spending close to a thousand of my own money before I realised I was wasting my time.

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The real game begins at University. No tuition. No hacks. No text guides. Everything is about active and independent learning.

A large proportion of fishes went to elite and renowned schools. A smaller proportion of fishes went to crappy and inexpensive educational institutions.  One day, all these fishes suddenly vanished and found themselves in another reality; a large ocean called Universeaty. There was this crazy philosophical fish under the name of danieltennis. He was lost in this reality. Usually, a catfish called Master Jack Nguyen taught many of the smaller fishes in the south-eastern region of the sea. He compressed concepts to a minimal state to help all his fishes avoid the mighty and deadly baits by the all the fishermen in the local sea. Danieltennis was a victim of Master Jack's learning. He was spoon fed by this catfish. The teaching methods of Jack was not appropriate and the right way to teach his students . While Jack did help danieltennis in his small sea, it was no help for Danieltennis when he applied Master Jack's simplistic concepts in this new reality. The compression of concepts led danieltennis to his downfall. He struggled. Baits fell everywhere from the sky. Bait after bait, he struggled until he was caught by a fisherman under the name of kurrymuncher. KM reeled the fishing line in to grab hold of his precious. Once danieltennis was in visible sight, KM complained, "what a smelly and ugly fish" and threw him back to the sea. Danieltennis was given a second chance of life. A feather in hand is better then a bird in the air. He plunged down to the bottom of the sea and reevaluated everything. He let loose of the things the catfish taught him and started afresh. He remained at the bottom of the sea for months and months learning and learning by himself. He learnt things differently and most importantly, fervently. He came back in Semester 2 with a vigorous and enthusiastic mind. From that moment on, there is not one single bait that can lure him in. Education is not received. It is achieved. And this is what danieltennis learned. The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education.



I have kept a book of all danieltennis' entries, he should be a philosopher/life-coach-they are so inspiring!
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Re: Am I an idiot?
« Reply #46 on: November 02, 2010, 09:16:30 pm »
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would you recommed your economics tutor?
in dire need for one. I want to get a head start during the holidays, could u give out their details if recommended :)

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Re: Am I an idiot?
« Reply #47 on: November 03, 2010, 07:28:59 pm »
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When I do better than those guys that goes to tutor, I feel that I've achieved something. This is the mentality that pushed me through my entire high school.I feel that if I went to a tutor, I would feel overconfident, and I would lose my drive to perform well.

Btw I go to a State school and the teachers aren't what u call good. It just depends on how you study.

I know some people who needs to study in groups/tutors, while others can study fine by themselves.

P.S. Always have an aim, always believe that you can achieve it, always work towards it, and you would never perform badly.


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Re: Am I an idiot?
« Reply #48 on: December 25, 2010, 08:37:13 pm »
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best to do things yourself, lol i know this is irrelevant to you know but hope you went well !
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Re: Am I an idiot?
« Reply #49 on: January 11, 2011, 01:40:30 pm »
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Since you go to a good private schools aren't your teachers good? Or willing to help you outside hours?
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Re: Am I an idiot?
« Reply #50 on: January 11, 2011, 03:48:15 pm »
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IMO, a tutor hinders top students.
Why?


Inefficient use of time, restricting your thinking/self exploration etc, etc.

a tutor hinders top students?  I don't mean to gloat, but I happened to have tutors in all of my subjects.  I don't feel...uh, hindered in anyway.  quite on the contrary, i think my tutors opened up a whole new world to me.  goodness knows without my wonderful english tutor's constant help on top of my equally wonderful school teacher, my english would have been a fiasco. 
I think it depends what kind of tutor you have...all of mine taught at elite private schools too, but they were willing to work around me.  whatever i wanted to do, they did with me and when i didn't have a particular area i wanted to go over, they extended me.  for example my french tutor and i did language analysis in french LOL. 
if you think you benefit from tutoring, then i say, continue, because as people have said earlier, you only do VCE once.  don't want to have any regrets.  also, in relation to the statement that you don't have tutors in uni, if you rely on tutors in vce how will you cope in uni...in my opinion, there are so many people with tutors in VCE (at my school, 90% of students from year 10 would have tutors, i think), if you're someone who would benefit from tutors, you're putting yourself at a disadvantage by not having one yourself.  It really is an uneven playing field.  And VCE is a harsh game.   In university, it's much more level...basically nobody has tutors, you rely on your 'uni tutors', and friends and lecturers.  So i think, even those who have relied on tutors in VCE will be fine in uni :)
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Re: Am I an idiot?
« Reply #51 on: January 11, 2011, 04:08:58 pm »
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IMO, a tutor hinders top students.
Why?


Inefficient use of time, restricting your thinking/self exploration etc, etc.

a tutor hinders top students?  I don't mean to gloat, but I happened to have tutors in all of my subjects.  I don't feel...uh, hindered in anyway.  quite on the contrary, i think my tutors opened up a whole new world to me.  goodness knows without my wonderful english tutor's constant help on top of my equally wonderful school teacher, my english would have been a fiasco.  
I think it depends what kind of tutor you have...all of mine taught at elite private schools too, but they were willing to work around me.  whatever i wanted to do, they did with me and when i didn't have a particular area i wanted to go over, they extended me.  for example my french tutor and i did language analysis in french LOL.  
if you think you benefit from tutoring, then i say, continue, because as people have said earlier, you only do VCE once.  don't want to have any regrets.  also, in relation to the statement that you don't have tutors in uni, if you rely on tutors in vce how will you cope in uni...in my opinion, there are so many people with tutors in VCE (at my school, 90% of students from year 10 would have tutors, i think), if you're someone who would benefit from tutors, you're putting yourself at a disadvantage by not having one yourself.  It really is an uneven playing field.  And VCE is a harsh game.   In university, it's much more level...basically nobody has tutors, you rely on your 'uni tutors', and friends and lecturers.  So i think, even those who have relied on tutors in VCE will be fine in uni :)
It's an uneven playing field because VCE has degenerated into a competition for who can afford the best tutors. How many times have we heard: "I'm sooo crap at English and can't put two words together, but my tutor trained me to get a 50"?
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Re: Am I an idiot?
« Reply #52 on: January 11, 2011, 04:46:30 pm »
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IMO, a tutor hinders top students.
Why?


Inefficient use of time, restricting your thinking/self exploration etc, etc.

a tutor hinders top students?  I don't mean to gloat, but I happened to have tutors in all of my subjects.  I don't feel...uh, hindered in anyway.  quite on the contrary, i think my tutors opened up a whole new world to me.  goodness knows without my wonderful english tutor's constant help on top of my equally wonderful school teacher, my english would have been a fiasco. 
I think it depends what kind of tutor you have...all of mine taught at elite private schools too, but they were willing to work around me.  whatever i wanted to do, they did with me and when i didn't have a particular area i wanted to go over, they extended me.  for example my french tutor and i did language analysis in french LOL. 
if you think you benefit from tutoring, then i say, continue, because as people have said earlier, you only do VCE once.  don't want to have any regrets.  also, in relation to the statement that you don't have tutors in uni, if you rely on tutors in vce how will you cope in uni...in my opinion, there are so many people with tutors in VCE (at my school, 90% of students from year 10 would have tutors, i think), if you're someone who would benefit from tutors, you're putting yourself at a disadvantage by not having one yourself.  It really is an uneven playing field.  And VCE is a harsh game.   In university, it's much more level...basically nobody has tutors, you rely on your 'uni tutors', and friends and lecturers.  So i think, even those who have relied on tutors in VCE will be fine in uni :)
It's an uneven playing field because VCE has degenerated into a competition for who can afford the best tutors. How many times have we heard: "I'm sooo crap at English and can't put two words together, but my tutor trained me to get a 50"?

I don't think you can say that a tutor 'trains' you to get a fifty.  There are students who have tutors and still don't do well...it comes down to how hard a student works and a tutor just lights the spark in them, like a teacher!
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Re: Am I an idiot?
« Reply #53 on: January 11, 2011, 07:56:56 pm »
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Nice bump dude ;]
I fail to see how people manage to stumble upon these 7 month old topics

May as well contribute while I'm here, I completely agree with kyzoo, if you can learn concepts yourself, tutors would only be a hinderance.
Tutoring was the worst decision I made in VCE. I started the year thinking a tutor was an absolute necessity in getting a high ENTER. I came here, got a tutor for every one of my subjects (two for english), went to engage etc. Most of them could teach pretty good (Truetears (h)) but I'd come home at 9pm on some weekdays and waste my whole weekends learning things I could have just picked up by reading the damn textbook. Ended up spending close to a thousand of my own money before I realised I was wasting my time.

+1

The real game begins at University. No tuition. No hacks. No text guides. Everything is about active and independent learning.

A large proportion of fishes went to elite and renowned schools. A smaller proportion of fishes went to crappy and inexpensive educational institutions.  One day, all these fishes suddenly vanished and found themselves in another reality; a large ocean called Universeaty. There was this crazy philosophical fish under the name of danieltennis. He was lost in this reality. Usually, a catfish called Master Jack Nguyen taught many of the smaller fishes in the south-eastern region of the sea. He compressed concepts to a minimal state to help all his fishes avoid the mighty and deadly baits by the all the fishermen in the local sea. Danieltennis was a victim of Master Jack's learning. He was spoon fed by this catfish. The teaching methods of Jack was not appropriate and the right way to teach his students . While Jack did help danieltennis in his small sea, it was no help for Danieltennis when he applied Master Jack's simplistic concepts in this new reality. The compression of concepts led danieltennis to his downfall. He struggled. Baits fell everywhere from the sky. Bait after bait, he struggled until he was caught by a fisherman under the name of kurrymuncher. KM reeled the fishing line in to grab hold of his precious. Once danieltennis was in visible sight, KM complained, "what a smelly and ugly fish" and threw him back to the sea. Danieltennis was given a second chance of life. A feather in hand is better then a bird in the air. He plunged down to the bottom of the sea and reevaluated everything. He let loose of the things the catfish taught him and started afresh. He remained at the bottom of the sea for months and months learning and learning by himself. He learnt things differently and most importantly, fervently. He came back in Semester 2 with a vigorous and enthusiastic mind. From that moment on, there is not one single bait that can lure him in. Education is not received. It is achieved. And this is what danieltennis learned. The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education.



I have kept a book of all danieltennis' entries, he should be a philosopher/life-coach-they are so inspiring!
haha what danieltennis said is sooooo true, independent learning is a skill that must be developed, because in uni no one will help you as much as you can help yourself. I have mates who has gotten 97 for ENTER at elite private schools and are now kicked out of their course at Monash because they dont know how to study and learn by themselves.
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