H1 subjects

[Stick]

Both. It's not terribly enjoyable because they take me a lot of time. Despite the stress, I much prefer sitting exams and tests.

[90+FTW]

Perfectly understandable I'm very meticulous with my essay writing (so it can often take me a lot of time as well). I can certainly see where you're coming from, at least with science there is a right and wrong answer. Grading essays are purely subjective.

[Stick]

You've hit the nail on the head! Even science reports/essays don't seem that bad in comparison.

[chysim]

Isn't that located in Southbank?

It is but it's not really a hassle. From Parkville you can just hop on basically any tram down Swanston and it takes a bit over 15 minutes. Or, if you come to uni via Flinders St, you can just walk down (about 10 minutes) or get a tram (about 5). Either way, it really doesn't take that much longer than walking from one end of the Parkville Campus to the other.

[Oilerian]

I've noticed from the subject review that you did take Latin 1, and seeing your exceptionally high mark there, would you recommend that subject yourself in that category?

If I may add, another interesting and perhaps more specific question to others is this. Which language subject is well taught, rewarding, as well as easy to do well in?

[Stick]

If I may add, another interesting and perhaps more specific question to others is this. Which language subject is well taught, rewarding, as well as easy to do well in?

ITALIAN ITALIAN ITALIAN ITALIAN ITALIAN

(see my reviews for a more informative explanation lol)

[90+FTW]

Well, Italian is actually my FIRST language (of course that's been overshadowed by the fact that I was raised in an English speaking country and I am considered a native speaker by...everyone. I was NEVER considered an ESL student but I did pick up English a few months after Italian so... makes sense). ANYWAY (sorry for the rambling)  what I'm trying to say is that there's nothing University could REALLY teach me about the basic stuff. Having been to Italy for quite some time, I can tell you that the Italian they teach in school is quite different to the Italian, applied in real life. I basically did Italian all through high school (lied to the teachers that I had never done it before) and aced every class. I wasn't prepared to do Japanese and the French teacher at my school was absolutely terrifying :0

Latin IS wonderful and I have been doing exceptionally well in it (I am majoring in Classics) but that doesn't necessarily mean I'll do well in French or Spanish. In fact, I did French once and I was absolutely shit at it. Don't trust me when it comes to languages, I think Latin was just a fluke.

I have to do Ancient Greek eventually (it's a requirement for Classics). Not sure if it's harder than Latin?

If I may add, another interesting and perhaps more specific question to others is this. Which language subject is well taught, rewarding, as well as easy to do well in?

Well, Latin is certainly NOT easy to do well in. Most people do badly but it IS incredibly rewarding, so if you're willing to put in the hard yards, you should do very well
I heard Japanese is easy? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[notveryasian]

Well, Italian is actually my FIRST language (of course that's been overshadowed by the fact that I was raised in an English speaking country and I am considered a native speaker by...everyone. I was NEVER considered an ESL student but I did pick up English a few months after Italian so... makes sense). ANYWAY (sorry for the rambling)  what I'm trying to say is that there's nothing University could REALLY teach me about the basic stuff. Having been to Italy for quite some time, I can tell you that the Italian they teach in school is quite different to the Italian, applied in real life. I basically did Italian all through high school (lied to the teachers that I had never done it before) and aced every class. I wasn't prepared to do Japanese and the French teacher at my school was absolutely terrifying :0

Latin IS wonderful and I have been doing exceptionally well in it (I am majoring in Classics) but that doesn't necessarily mean I'll do well in French or Spanish. In fact, I did French once and I was absolutely shit at it. Don't trust me when it comes to languages, I think Latin was just a fluke.

I have to do Ancient Greek eventually (it's a requirement for Classics). Not sure if it's harder than Latin?

Well, Latin is certainly NOT easy to do well in. Most people do badly but it IS incredibly rewarding, so if you're willing to put in the hard yards, you should do very well
I heard Japanese is easy? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Since you have familiarised yourself well with the basics of Latin, you may find that learning Ancient Greek to be easier as they have similar grammar and syntax. A bit of Latin vocabulary also comes from the Ancient Greek language and you will be able to see the similarities in words once you start studying.

(A bit off topic)By the way, how is studying Latin at University? Is it quite fast? I've thought about continuing VCE Latin at UoM as breadth and always wondered how people are able to learn Latin from scratch and be able to read/translate and anaylse texts so quickly. Seems mind-boggling to me 

[Adequace]

Well, Italian is actually my FIRST language (of course that's been overshadowed by the fact that I was raised in an English speaking country and I am considered a native speaker by...everyone. I was NEVER considered an ESL student but I did pick up English a few months after Italian so... makes sense). ANYWAY (sorry for the rambling)  what I'm trying to say is that there's nothing University could REALLY teach me about the basic stuff. Having been to Italy for quite some time, I can tell you that the Italian they teach in school is quite different to the Italian, applied in real life. I basically did Italian all through high school (lied to the teachers that I had never done it before) and aced every class. I wasn't prepared to do Japanese and the French teacher at my school was absolutely terrifying :0

Latin IS wonderful and I have been doing exceptionally well in it (I am majoring in Classics) but that doesn't necessarily mean I'll do well in French or Spanish. In fact, I did French once and I was absolutely shit at it. Don't trust me when it comes to languages, I think Latin was just a fluke.

I have to do Ancient Greek eventually (it's a requirement for Classics). Not sure if it's harder than Latin?

Well, Latin is certainly NOT easy to do well in. Most people do badly but it IS incredibly rewarding, so if you're willing to put in the hard yards, you should do very well
I heard Japanese is easy? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I come from an Asian background but predominantly Chinese so my opinion might be useful. Japanese isn't a necessarily easy language but is the easiest out of the 'main' Asian languages. I'm not sure how easy/hard it is compared to European languages since I didn't really learn one. Although I tried learning French which I found hard to grasp but I never really tried in it.

[90+FTW]

By the way, how is studying Latin at University? Is it quite fast? I've thought about continuing VCE Latin at UoM as breadth and always wondered how people are able to learn Latin from scratch and be able to read/translate and anaylse texts so quickly. Seems mind-boggling to me 

Haha no prob and yes, it is mind-boggling 
Well more than half the students drop off after the first semester in Latin:/ Surprisingly enough, I've actually met a lot of VCE Latin students and to be honest, I'd say we are at exactly the same level (that is the aim of the first year after all). For example, I managed to match them in everything (surprisingly enough I even managed to out do them in certain areas) but I suppose that it comes down to the person as well. I never thought I'd be good at Latin until my professor asked me to continue with it...

Latin, from what I understand, is much harder at University. A lot of the VCE students get a shock coming in to it and many of the 2nd year students have had a year to perfect their essay writing skills for University, while VCE students have not. With that said, VCE students have had a longer time to learn the language. It's really hard for me to speak on behalf of everyone, I can only speak for myself. Personally, I didn't find learning the entire language difficult in a year (we are still studying the exceptions next year though) but that's because I worked ridiculously hard and I love it so much! Two of the best tutors I've ever had, started Latin at University and now they're at Yale and Harvard (not joking) completing their PhD.

Please remember that I also had Italian to back me up, which CERTAINLY helped. All in all, I think it really depends on the person. To be honest I'd say that both university students AND VCE students get quite a shock in Latin 3. Although, I've got some pretty hardcore Latin GENIUSES in my class right now, so I'm sure THEY'LL be fine.

The best advice I can give you is, do what you love and the rest will follow Latin 3 is more literature based than grammar focused. It involves analysing the language at sophisticated levels etc but if you like this sort of thing, then I'm sure you'll do VERY WELL in it

[90+FTW]

Japanese isn't a necessarily easy language but is the easiest out of the 'main' Asian languages.

Well, I think any Asian language is difficult to learn. What makes Japanese the "easiest" out of the rest?

P.S if anyone has any other subjects that they consider easy H1s (not just languages) please contribute

[Pup]

I highly recommend Glee Singing 1 , not only it is easier to do well in, but it does not requires much work, very little in fact. Singing also makes you happier and alleviates stress!

[notveryasian]

Haha no prob and yes, it is mind-boggling 
Well more than half the students drop off after the first semester in Latin:/ Surprisingly enough, I've actually met a lot of VCE Latin students and to be honest, I'd say we are at exactly the same level (that is the aim of the first year after all). For example, I managed to match them in everything (surprisingly enough I even managed to out do them in certain areas) but I suppose that it comes down to the person as well. I never thought I'd be good at Latin until my professor asked me to continue with it...

Latin, from what I understand, is much harder at University. A lot of the VCE students get a shock coming in to it and many of the 2nd year students have had a year to perfect their essay writing skills for University, while VCE students have not. With that said, VCE students have had a longer time to learn the language. It's really hard for me to speak on behalf of everyone, I can only speak for myself. Personally, I didn't find learning the entire language difficult in a year (we are still studying the exceptions next year though) but that's because I worked ridiculously hard and I love it so much! Two of the best tutors I've ever had, started Latin at University and now they're at Yale and Harvard (not joking) completing their PhD.

Please remember that I also had Italian to back me up, which CERTAINLY helped. All in all, I think it really depends on the person. To be honest I'd say that both university students AND VCE students get quite a shock in Latin 3. Although, I've got some pretty hardcore Latin GENIUSES in my class right now, so I'm sure THEY'LL be fine.

The best advice I can give you is, do what you love and the rest will follow Latin 3 is more literature based than grammar focused. It involves analysing the language at sophisticated levels etc but if you like this sort of thing, then I'm sure you'll do VERY WELL in it

No doubt that your english/writing/language background help you a great deal in Latin. It's great that you find yourself on the same skill level as VCE students. Maybe because my VCE cohort was pretty beastly at Latin, but I would expect that all VCE Latin students to have known almost, if not all Latin grammar and have studied the Aeneid Book II and the works of Cicero to a great depth. We didn't do essays of the length that are required in University Latin, but essay writing was a skill that was developed through the whole of VCE. But as you have suggested, hard work and good teaching of the language can really get you anywhere.

Also, your enthusiasm and love for the language is very nostalgic. It reminds me of the time when I was learning Latin. I may not be able to enrol in Latin 3(breadth requirements etc.) but I still have my old Latin stuff and I will read/translate texts in my own time.

[Adequace]

Well, I think any Asian language is difficult to learn. What makes Japanese the "easiest" out of the rest?

P.S if anyone has any other subjects that they consider easy H1s (not just languages) please contribute

I can only compare it to Chinese since I don't have much experience with Korean. I learnt Chinese first so I may be a little biased. I find when learning Japanese it's easier to pick up because there are fewer tones and they're easier to pronounce. I also find writing Japanese easier compared to Chinese especially Traditional Chinese.

Although a lot of people can argue the opposite, I don't really like comparing languages since it usually turns in to a heated argument especially between my fobby friends 

[90+FTW]

but I would expect that all VCE Latin students to have known almost, if not all Latin grammar and have studied the Aeneid Book II and the works of Cicero to a great depth.

That's wonderful!!! Did you study Cicero's Pro Caelio?