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Title: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: TheFedExpress on August 26, 2012, 10:34:53 am
I know this sounds a bit stupid, but what pens are you guys going to use for the English exam?

I'm finding my hand is cramping up a lot after about 1 hour of writing, some pens have delayed this, some have exacerbated it.

I love my Bic 4-in-1's, but will have to find a grip for it I think.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: My name aint bob on August 26, 2012, 01:03:31 pm
dont worry, i love over-prepping these little things, it helps makes me feel like iv one-upped everyone else.

im thinking a bic 4 pen, i started using them this year and there quite reliable. Theres also a more squarish one they have started selling, it comes with a nice grip (though swear when i write with it it lets out more ink and can smudge more) so there's probably a few sitting around the Safeway shelves you can pick up and try
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Surgeon on August 26, 2012, 01:06:10 pm
I suggest of head to a pen boutique and pick something that you feel comfortable with.

There is a large range of pens, ranging from ~$5-10 to the thousands.

I picked one up for a reasonable amount of money and it's great. Writes beautifully and is very comfortable.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: paulsterio on August 26, 2012, 01:15:27 pm
I agree with Surgeon, having a good and reliable pen will be something that you will come to love. I'm not suggesting a thousand dollar pen with encrusted diamond and a gold tip, but something like a nice Waterman which will last you at least a decade.

I have a nice pen which I've been using since Year 12 - it writes nicely and is very reliable. Carry some ink refills and it'll always be able to go strong.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Surgeon on August 26, 2012, 01:38:32 pm
I agree with Surgeon, having a good and reliable pen will be something that you will come to love. I'm not suggesting a thousand dollar pen with encrusted diamond and a gold tip, but something like a nice Waterman which will last you at least a decade.

I have a nice pen which I've been using since Year 12 - it writes nicely and is very reliable. Carry some ink refills and it'll always be able to go strong.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E6bb21HIgPY
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: TheFedExpress on August 26, 2012, 03:17:34 pm
I agree with Surgeon, having a good and reliable pen will be something that you will come to love. I'm not suggesting a thousand dollar pen with encrusted diamond and a gold tip, but something like a nice Waterman which will last you at least a decade.

I have a nice pen which I've been using since Year 12 - it writes nicely and is very reliable. Carry some ink refills and it'll always be able to go strong.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E6bb21HIgPY

Was that link to the Chang video saying GAYYYYY (there was a page of videos that came up)!!! Haha, regardless, God I love Community!
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Zidane on August 26, 2012, 03:35:39 pm

I agree with Surgeon, having a good and reliable pen will be something that you will come to love. I'm not suggesting a thousand dollar pen with encrusted diamond and a gold tip, but something like a nice Waterman which will last you at least a decade.

I have a nice pen which I've been using since Year 12 - it writes nicely and is very reliable. Carry some ink refills and it'll always be able to go strong.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E6bb21HIgPY

Was that link to the Chang video saying GAYYYYY (there was a page of videos that came up)!!! Haha, regardless, God I love Community!

lol i saw it came up on my screen too, gotta love senor Chang

http://hahgay.com/

this just gets me everytime XD
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Furbob on August 26, 2012, 03:45:20 pm
(http://www.srdailey.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/pilot_07-blk1.jpg)

these were very good for my english exam - the ink comes out very easily so it was easy on my hands and I did not have any hand-cramps when I was writing.
only con is that they run out quickly because a lot of ink comes out but they're not too pricey
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: TheFedExpress on August 26, 2012, 04:02:35 pm
(http://www.srdailey.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/pilot_07-blk1.jpg)

these were very good for my english exam - the ink comes out very easily so it was easy on my hands and I did not have any hand-cramps when I was writing.
only con is that they run out quickly because a lot of ink comes out but they're not too pricey

Thanks Furbob, I'll grab a pack tonight and test them out. I think I'll just buy a range and see how I go with them all. Then when I head to the city, go to a pen shop and test out a few like Surgeon and Paulsterio suggested.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: EvangelionZeta on August 26, 2012, 04:11:42 pm
I personally recommend any cheap uniball pen that feels ergonomically viable to you.  It's hard to generally suggest a particular make for a pen since everybody holds pens differently, but at the very least uniballs are fluid, reliable, and fairly price-effective.  I would also recommend a smaller tip rather than a larger one (I think I used 0.7 for the exam?), mostly because it's easier to read when the lines are cleaner.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Starlight on August 26, 2012, 06:12:11 pm
BIC atlantis isn't too shabby

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=BIC+Atlantis&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1366&bih=619&tbm=isch&tbnid=cZP9afSYBKt9yM:&imgrefurl=http://www.buy.com/prod/bic-atlantis-retractable-pen-ink-color-blue-barrel-color-clear-12-dozen/205783015.html&imgurl=http://ak.buy.com/PI/0/500/205783015.jpg&w=500&h=500&ei=Jto5UIi_KcWviQewm4DACQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=400&vpy=52&dur=182&hovh=225&hovw=225&tx=149&ty=87&sig=109803609011140443860&page=1&tbnh=132&tbnw=133&start=0&ndsp=24&ved=1t:429,r:18,s:0,i:129
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: pi on August 26, 2012, 06:17:33 pm
I used these bad boys

http://www.bigw.com.au/electronics/computers-office/stationery/bpnBIGW_0000000083787/paper-mate-kilometrico-pen-black-15-pack?utm_source=GoogleProductFeed&utm_medium=cpc&origin=%7Badtype%7D&id=%7Badwords_producttargetid%7D&gclid=CIKynIzthLICFQlLpgodk2AAxg

(http://www.bigw.com.au/media/BIGW/Product/1000x1000/7022241_0_9999.jpg_lge_v1_m56577569834349037.jpg)

I'm not fussy about pens, as long as they work and aren't too heavy, they're good enough to use.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Starlight on August 26, 2012, 07:19:03 pm
I used these bad boys

http://www.bigw.com.au/electronics/computers-office/stationery/bpnBIGW_0000000083787/paper-mate-kilometrico-pen-black-15-pack?utm_source=GoogleProductFeed&utm_medium=cpc&origin=%7Badtype%7D&id=%7Badwords_producttargetid%7D&gclid=CIKynIzthLICFQlLpgodk2AAxg

(http://www.bigw.com.au/media/BIGW/Product/1000x1000/7022241_0_9999.jpg_lge_v1_m56577569834349037.jpg)

I'm not fussy about pens, as long as they work and aren't too heavy, they're good enough to use.

Some may argue there's no grip and might strain their hands. But under the exam pressure anyway the last thing I think about is any pain in my hands.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Felicity Wishes on August 26, 2012, 07:25:00 pm
I used these bad boys

http://www.bigw.com.au/electronics/computers-office/stationery/bpnBIGW_0000000083787/paper-mate-kilometrico-pen-black-15-pack?utm_source=GoogleProductFeed&utm_medium=cpc&origin=%7Badtype%7D&id=%7Badwords_producttargetid%7D&gclid=CIKynIzthLICFQlLpgodk2AAxg

(http://www.bigw.com.au/media/BIGW/Product/1000x1000/7022241_0_9999.jpg_lge_v1_m56577569834349037.jpg)

I'm not fussy about pens, as long as they work and aren't too heavy, they're good enough to use.

I used one yesterday and I somehow snapped it. >.<
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Eddiee on August 26, 2012, 07:35:25 pm
im thinking a bic 4 pen, i started using them this year and there quite reliable. Theres also a more squarish one they have started selling, it comes with a nice grip (though swear when i write with it it lets out more ink and can smudge more) so there's probably a few sitting around the Safeway shelves you can pick up and try

Hmm everyone I know seems to go for the Bic 4 pens... personally I like these ones better, been using them for years now:

(http://www.everydaypens.com/27-95-thickbox/paper-mate-4-ball-retractable-multipen.jpg)


Hate it when I run out of blue ink though lol.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Limista on August 26, 2012, 07:39:22 pm
I used these bad boys

http://www.bigw.com.au/electronics/computers-office/stationery/bpnBIGW_0000000083787/paper-mate-kilometrico-pen-black-15-pack?utm_source=GoogleProductFeed&utm_medium=cpc&origin=%7Badtype%7D&id=%7Badwords_producttargetid%7D&gclid=CIKynIzthLICFQlLpgodk2AAxg


(http://www.bigw.com.au/media/BIGW/Product/1000x1000/7022241_0_9999.jpg_lge_v1_m56577569834349037.jpg)

I'm not fussy about pens, as long as they work and aren't too heavy, they're good enough to use.

I used one yesterday and I somehow snapped it. >.<
lol! heard of pencil-snapping, but not of pen-snapping  :P You must have a firm hand  ;)
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: honey-corowa on August 26, 2012, 08:09:05 pm
I love this!
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Felicity Wishes on August 26, 2012, 08:22:20 pm
Ooooh and on the topic of pens, does anyone here use a different pen for a different essay?
I always find it refreshing to switch pens!
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: TheFedExpress on August 26, 2012, 09:05:32 pm
Ooooh and on the topic of pens, does anyone here use a different pen for a different essay?
I always find it refreshing to switch pens!

Haha, i always have different pens for different exams, but have never thought of different pens for each essay! I might just do that actually!


Hate it when I run out of blue ink though lol.

Tell me about it! I always run out of black in my 4-in-1, whilst my red, blue and green remain practically full. Sometimes i do transplants and transfer the inside of a single black pen  into my 4in1 Bic. Sometimes the patient responds positively to the surgery, sometimes not.

Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: lilaznkev1n on August 26, 2012, 09:06:19 pm
Last year I used Papermate Profile 1.4B for all my exams because it has the right thickness so it fits comfortably in your hand. Also it is really smooth to write with and you don't need to press hard on the page for it to work. Still using this pen this year. Bought it at IGA.
I suggest bring like 3 for the English exam. I had a brand new one before the exam and after the exam I used like 80% of the ink of one of the pens.
(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/167265_181705145201482_6063793_a.jpg)
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Zidane on August 26, 2012, 10:00:48 pm
Ooooh and on the topic of pens, does anyone here use a different pen for a different essay?
I always find it refreshing to switch pens!

yeah i do that, i would write the intro with one pen and then after the intro switch to another (same colour) and write with it. pretty much from then on i write with which ever one feels more comfortable and smooth on the paper.

i prefer pens with small leads rather than large ones, i feel they are easy to write with and your writing appears more clear/neat.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: walkec on August 30, 2012, 07:06:25 am
I swear by the Papermate Inkjoy :)
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Fluttershy on August 30, 2012, 09:07:31 am
I use sheep's blood smeared onto my fingers.  8)
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: charmanderp on August 30, 2012, 10:19:25 am
I used a Sheaffers fountain pen for Lit last year and filled up two script books with no hand cramps whatsoever afterwards. Will be using one again for English, Politics and Media and occasionally use one for SACs. If you do decide to do this, make sure you practice using one beforehand and take two or three in with you in case one runs out of ink. Or swap cartridges.

You won't smudge your writing with your hand either, given that you have to hold the pen at a 45 degree angle for it to work.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: TheFedExpress on August 30, 2012, 06:46:37 pm
Thanks for all the replies guys.

I have taken note of all the suggested pens and will be testing them out over the next few weeks. I'll post my findings on here.

Yesterday Mum bought me a Uniball Jetstream (http://www.penreview.com/files/penreview_images/uniball-jetstream.jpg)
I can tell you know I think it will be hard to beat.

Price (9/10) I think it was around $4.90 which I find great value for money for the quality of the pen.
Grip (8/10): It has a nice size grip, with a thin rubber outer. It isn't too squishy and offers a solid feel.
Weight (9/10): It is a little heavier than your standard Kilometrico or Bic single pen, but obviously not as heavy as your metal fountain pens. I quite like the weight of it, but that's just me.
Speed (9/10): It is super quick across the page! Super smooth with none of that clicking whenever you press the pen down on the page.
Inkage (9/10): So far I haven't had any of what I call "spiderwebs" where the pen leaks. It is 1mm which I quite like, not too bold, but also not not so thin I have to press down hard to get a solid print.

Total (44/50) By no means am I an expert of pens and this is just my own personal opinion, basically just me crapping on.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: brenden on August 30, 2012, 06:51:24 pm
Shit. You guys are intense about your pens. When I need a new one I rock up to the shops next to my school and buy the most cost efficient pack of pens o.O
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: nisha on August 30, 2012, 06:55:36 pm
Shit. You guys are intense about your pens. When I need a new one I rock up to the shops next to my school and buy the most cost efficient pack of pens o.O
Same. Like 15 for $2? Yup.

Although, I am a huge fan of JJ Burrows.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: brenden on August 30, 2012, 06:58:17 pm
Shit. You guys are intense about your pens. When I need a new one I rock up to the shops next to my school and buy the most cost efficient pack of pens o.O
Same. Like 15 for $2? Yup.

Although, I am a huge fan of JJ Burrows.
Yeah that sounds right lol. Maybe if I used a better pen I would've got an A+ in Psych!
I have no idea who that is lol.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: nacho on August 30, 2012, 07:06:50 pm
lol you guys are insane.
This is all you need:
(http://images.eofficedirect.com/image.aspx?resize=250;250;true;true&file=/images/Full/11961066.jpg)

someone close this thread because yolo
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Bhootnike on August 30, 2012, 07:16:30 pm
I used a Sheaffers fountain pen for Lit last year and filled up two script books with no hand cramps whatsoever afterwards. Will be using one again for English, Politics and Media and occasionally use one for SACs. If you do decide to do this, make sure you practice using one beforehand and take two or three in with you in case one runs out of ink. Or swap cartridges.

You won't smudge your writing with your hand either, given that you have to hold the pen at a 45 degree angle for it to work.

Fountain pen FTW. stock up on bulletproof ink while you're at it :p
What sheaffer you got?

And yer, only gumbys can smudge...  srs.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Truck on August 30, 2012, 08:26:51 pm
Jesus.

Am I the only one who just uses whatever pen they find in their pencil case? (always have different pens in there for some reason lol) :P.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Biceps on August 30, 2012, 08:36:57 pm
Jesus.

Am I the only one who just uses whatever pen they find in their pencil case? (always have different pens in there for some reason lol) :P.
Same :P
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: KevinooBz on August 30, 2012, 08:51:30 pm
Jesus.

Am I the only one who just uses whatever pen they find in their pencil case? (always have different pens in there for some reason lol) :P.
Same :P
It's not just a pen, it's a way of life.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: paulsterio on August 30, 2012, 08:57:19 pm
Jesus.

Am I the only one who just uses whatever pen they find in their pencil case? (always have different pens in there for some reason lol) :P.

Haha, well to some, a pen is something that is sentimental - similar to a watch. I know people who are happy wearing $10 watches that break every few months, whereas I prefer wearing a nice watch because it's something I value - in the long run, of course you pay for quality, but in return, you get reliable, good service from it and it lasts you a while. The same goes with pens!
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Truck on August 30, 2012, 08:58:45 pm
Jesus.

Am I the only one who just uses whatever pen they find in their pencil case? (always have different pens in there for some reason lol) :P.

Haha, well to some, a pen is something that is sentimental - similar to a watch. I know people who are happy wearing $10 watches that break every few months, whereas I prefer wearing a nice watch because it's something I value - in the long run, of course you pay for quality, but in return, you get reliable, good service from it and it lasts you a while. The same goes with pens!

Yes but watches are boss, whereas people who use hundred dollar pens at school are douchebags :P.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: FlorianK on August 30, 2012, 09:04:05 pm
Thanks for all the replies guys.

I have taken note of all the suggested pens and will be testing them out over the next few weeks. I'll post my findings on here.

Yesterday Mum bought me a Uniball Jetstream (http://www.penreview.com/files/penreview_images/uniball-jetstream.jpg)
I can tell you know I think it will be hard to beat.

Price (9/10) I think it was around $4.90 which I find great value for money for the quality of the pen.
Grip (8/10): It has a nice size grip, with a thin rubber outer. It isn't too squishy and offers a solid feel.
Weight (9/10): It is a little heavier than your standard Kilometrico or Bic single pen, but obviously not as heavy as your metal fountain pens. I quite like the weight of it, but that's just me.
Speed (9/10): It is super quick across the page! Super smooth with none of that clicking whenever you press the pen down on the page.
Inkage (9/10): So far I haven't had any of what I call "spiderwebs" where the pen leaks. It is 1mm which I quite like, not too bold, but also not not so thin I have to press down hard to get a solid print.

Total (44/50) By no means am I an expert of pens and this is just my own personal opinion, basically just me crapping on.
Available at office works?
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Water on August 30, 2012, 09:06:39 pm
This questions seems to be asked every year, how interesting!
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Surgeon on August 30, 2012, 09:13:22 pm
Jesus.

Am I the only one who just uses whatever pen they find in their pencil case? (always have different pens in there for some reason lol) :P.

Haha, well to some, a pen is something that is sentimental - similar to a watch. I know people who are happy wearing $10 watches that break every few months, whereas I prefer wearing a nice watch because it's something I value - in the long run, of course you pay for quality, but in return, you get reliable, good service from it and it lasts you a while. The same goes with pens!

Yes but watches are boss, whereas people who use hundred dollar pens at school are douchebags :P.

I don't think you should be labelling someone a douchebag about something like using a pen worth a certain amount.

Different people justify spending different amounts of money on different things.

Some people justify spending heaps of money on postage stamps, some people pay lots for antique currency, some people spend heaps on watches, some people spend heaps on online games/gaming stations, some people spend heaps on pens.

It comes down to what you value as a person.

Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Phantom-II on August 30, 2012, 09:26:23 pm
Pilot bottle 2 pen
(http://doesthispenwrite.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/pi_pd_b2p_bottle-to-pen_begreen_gel_roller_2.jpg)

hug yo trees man
it is actually quite a good pen; tip is fine and sharp, Ink is strong and black with a low viscosity, grip is weighty and firm. It does smudge, but anyone who cant deal with ink smudging should have their pen license removed

what are the main factors that influence your choice? Is it the grip size? softness? aesthetics? ink colour? smoothness of tip? general feel/cramp-prevention?
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Truck on August 30, 2012, 09:36:31 pm
Jesus.

Am I the only one who just uses whatever pen they find in their pencil case? (always have different pens in there for some reason lol) :P.

Haha, well to some, a pen is something that is sentimental - similar to a watch. I know people who are happy wearing $10 watches that break every few months, whereas I prefer wearing a nice watch because it's something I value - in the long run, of course you pay for quality, but in return, you get reliable, good service from it and it lasts you a while. The same goes with pens!

Yes but watches are boss, whereas people who use hundred dollar pens at school are douchebags :P.

I don't think you should be labelling someone a douchebag about something like using a pen worth a certain amount.

Different people justify spending different amounts of money on different things.

Some people justify spending heaps of money on postage stamps, some people pay lots for antique currency, some people spend heaps on watches, some people spend heaps on online games/gaming stations, some people spend heaps on pens.

It comes down to what you value as a person.



I was joking, but ok I'll bite. There's nothing wrong with an expensive pen, but I haven't met a single person who uses an expensive pen at school without the explicit purpose of showing off. I mean it's school, people lose their pens all the time / they get broken, and when we say expensive - i'm talking $100 range pen... buy one when you own a business, they're not for your english essays :P.

Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: paulsterio on August 30, 2012, 09:37:18 pm
Yes but watches are boss, whereas people who use hundred dollar pens at school are douchebags :P.

Yeah, that's because watches are boss to you - if we talk in terms of FUNCTIONALITY - I can probably find a $30 watch which has all the functionality of a Rolex or Omega - i.e. tells the time, stopwatch (chronograph)...etc.

It's the same thing with pens - you can find a $1 which is FUNCTIONALLY the same as a $100 pen - but the difference lies in the quality of the product.

For example, if I pay more for a Rolex watch, I expect good quality, that it will last me for a long time, that it will "look good" and that it will work reliably.

Same thing goes for pens - if I pay more for a pen, I expect the ink to be smoother, a nicer writing experience and better quality - for example, I know that my pen (which is around $40 - so not too expensive) is pretty much leak proof - unlike the cheaper pens - so I can keep it in my shirt/pants pocket without worrying. It's also lasted me for over a year - which is a very long time.

So I don't think it's justified to call anybody a douchebag just because they value something different to you - we all like to spend our money on different things. For example, I could easily call a person who goes out to buy FIFA '12 a douche just because FIFA '10 is like $20 and is similar. I could also call anybody who buys a BMW a douche because they could have just gotten a Hyundai.

It's what you decide to pay for and what you value, essentially, so do be respectful.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Truck on August 30, 2012, 09:41:50 pm
For example, I could easily call a person who goes out to buy FIFA '12 a douche just because FIFA '10 is like $20 and is similar.

CAN'T BELIEVE YOU JUST SAID THAT! TOO FAR BRO, TOO FAR!

But no seriously, a) 60% of what I said was a joke, b) the 40% referred explicitly to people who use expensive pens at school, again, nothing wrong with an expensive pen and your reasoning for using one is sound, I'm talking about using it at SCHOOL though.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Bhootnike on August 30, 2012, 09:42:57 pm
people lose their pens all the time / they get broken, and when we say expensive - i'm talking $100 range pen... buy one when you own a business, they're not for your english essays :P.

i have three $100 + fountain pens ive been using for over 2 years, at school.
and ive never used a ballpoint except for coloured ones for the sole writing purpose (except exams. i use frixion pens..)
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Truck on August 30, 2012, 09:45:08 pm
people lose their pens all the time / they get broken, and when we say expensive - i'm talking $100 range pen... buy one when you own a business, they're not for your english essays :P.

i have three $100 + fountain pens ive been using for over 2 years, at school.
and ive never used a ballpoint except for coloured ones for the sole writing purpose (except exams. i use frixion pens..)


Then you sir are talented beyond belief.

(For them to have survived so long, that is.)
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: brenden on August 30, 2012, 09:45:59 pm
people lose their pens all the time / they get broken, and when we say expensive - i'm talking $100 range pen... buy one when you own a business, they're not for your english essays :P.

i have three $100 + fountain pens ive been using for over 2 years, at school.
and ive never used a ballpoint except for coloured ones for the sole writing purpose (except exams. i use frixion pens..)
Three? Seems excessive.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: paulsterio on August 30, 2012, 09:46:38 pm
CAN'T BELIEVE YOU JUST SAID THAT! TOO FAR BRO, TOO FAR!

But no seriously, a) 60% of what I said was a joke, b) the 40% referred explicitly to people who use expensive pens at school, again, nothing wrong with an expensive pen and your reasoning for using one is sound, I'm talking about using it at SCHOOL though.

Hahaha, well I had to take an extreme example, but come on, you can't deny that it's true, FIFA only changes marginally year to year yet I know people who have like FIFA '09, FIFA '10, FIFA '11, FIFA '12! But yeah, the same argument applies there - you're paying more for something which is a marginal improvement.

Oh, nah I understand that it's a joke, I joke around all the time, but yeah - I used my pen at school but it wasn't to show off or anything, it was just because it felt really comfortable writing with it (smooth and good weight) and it wrote really reliably - like it never needed a scribble to get the ink going - stuff like that.

But I do agree with you - there are some people who use/wear/buy expensive stuff for no other reason than showing off - but oh well, it's their money and if they have the money then that's their choice - they're not really harming anyone so I guess it's not a bad thing.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Truck on August 30, 2012, 09:48:47 pm
CAN'T BELIEVE YOU JUST SAID THAT! TOO FAR BRO, TOO FAR!

But no seriously, a) 60% of what I said was a joke, b) the 40% referred explicitly to people who use expensive pens at school, again, nothing wrong with an expensive pen and your reasoning for using one is sound, I'm talking about using it at SCHOOL though.

Hahaha, well I had to take an extreme example, but come on, you can't deny that it's true, FIFA only changes marginally year to year yet I know people who have like FIFA '09, FIFA '10, FIFA '11, FIFA '12! But yeah, the same argument applies there - you're paying more for something which is a marginal improvement.

Oh, nah I understand that it's a joke, I joke around all the time, but yeah - I used my pen at school but it wasn't to show off or anything, it was just because it felt really comfortable writing with it (smooth and good weight) and it wrote really reliably - like it never needed a scribble to get the ink going - stuff like that.

But I do agree with you - there are some people who use/wear/buy expensive stuff for no other reason than showing off - but oh well, it's their money and if they have the money then that's their choice - they're not really harming anyone so I guess it's not a bad thing.

Well I'm glad we resolved this dispute amicably :).

But I must warn you, if you ever insult FIFA again I will find you and kill you.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Surgeon on August 30, 2012, 09:49:02 pm
Jesus.

Am I the only one who just uses whatever pen they find in their pencil case? (always have different pens in there for some reason lol) :P.

Haha, well to some, a pen is something that is sentimental - similar to a watch. I know people who are happy wearing $10 watches that break every few months, whereas I prefer wearing a nice watch because it's something I value - in the long run, of course you pay for quality, but in return, you get reliable, good service from it and it lasts you a while. The same goes with pens!

Yes but watches are boss, whereas people who use hundred dollar pens at school are douchebags :P.

I don't think you should be labelling someone a douchebag about something like using a pen worth a certain amount.

Different people justify spending different amounts of money on different things.

Some people justify spending heaps of money on postage stamps, some people pay lots for antique currency, some people spend heaps on watches, some people spend heaps on online games/gaming stations, some people spend heaps on pens.

It comes down to what you value as a person.



I was joking, but ok I'll bite. There's nothing wrong with an expensive pen, but I haven't met a single person who uses an expensive pen at school without the explicit purpose of showing off. I mean it's school, people lose their pens all the time / they get broken, and when we say expensive - i'm talking $100 range pen... buy one when you own a business, they're not for your english essays :P.

Don't want to turn this into an absolute shit storm once again. My comments seem to make that happen :\

Similar to Bhootnike, I have a pen and a mechanical pencil that I paid more than $100 for. It stays in my blazer pocket constantly because a) you never know when you'll need a pen, and b) it's the only pen I use. I've never told anyone how much I spent on either, despite being questioned a multitude of times.

Why did I justify forking out the money I did when I could have easily spent a tiny fraction of the price?

As Paul mentioned, for a better quality product and a better experience when using it. Also, I like the way it looks. It's quite understated, really.

Has a nice weight to it, feels right in my hand and is black/silver.

Not everyone loses their pens/pencils all the time.

Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: paulsterio on August 30, 2012, 09:50:26 pm
Also, I should mention - if you're prone to losing something - buy something slightly more expensive - you'll look after it more carefully if you can't afford to lose it :P
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: pi on August 30, 2012, 09:50:42 pm
Cheap pens ftw :D None of this keeping pens under tight security and none of this fear for losing them :D
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Bhootnike on August 30, 2012, 09:55:54 pm
people lose their pens all the time / they get broken, and when we say expensive - i'm talking $100 range pen... buy one when you own a business, they're not for your english essays :P.

i have three $100 + fountain pens ive been using for over 2 years, at school.
and ive never used a ballpoint except for coloured ones for the sole writing purpose (except exams. i use frixion pens..)
Three? Seems excessive.

i fancy them.
i have a collection, hence i have more, however i only use 3 atm
besides, i find them more ergonomic than ball points. and they look so much cooler.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Kanon on August 30, 2012, 10:08:59 pm
(http://learningfromdogs.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/quill-pen.jpg)
$100 pen?  Bitches examiners love quills.   
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Bhootnike on August 30, 2012, 10:19:28 pm
(http://learningfromdogs.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/quill-pen.jpg)
$100 pen?  Bitches examiners love quills.   

that's not even a quill,
but touche.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: lilaznkev1n on August 30, 2012, 10:22:32 pm
noobs and their $100 pens :P

(http://richpeoplethings.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Aurora_Diamante-570x300.jpg)

Aurora Diamante Fountain Pen
Price: $1.47 million

The magnificent fountain pen is said to the first and only 30 carat pen in the world and features 2,000 diamond encrusted throughout its body. Furthermore, to ensure bespoke elegance, the Diamante comes with a gold nib, while demanding a big hole in your pocket as it costs $1,470,600. Primarily because of such a high price tag and the plethora of precious gems, Aurora has planned to craft only one such pen year, thereby preserving exclusivity.

Source: http://world-most-expensive.com/pens
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Somye on August 30, 2012, 10:27:02 pm
For example, I could easily call a person who goes out to buy FIFA '12 a douche just because FIFA '10 is like $20 and is similar.

....blasphemy!
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: brenden on August 30, 2012, 10:42:16 pm
That million dollar pen has got to be the stupidest thing in the world >.<
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Biceps on August 30, 2012, 10:53:56 pm
I have a whole collection of empty pens i am collecting. :P around 18 empty pens since year 11, 14 of which are from year 12  :P
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Surgeon on August 30, 2012, 11:26:10 pm
For example, I could easily call a person who goes out to buy FIFA '12 a douche just because FIFA '10 is like $20 and is similar.

....blasphemy!

That really depends.

If someone earns $500 million a year, they're spending 0.2% of their income.

That's like someone who earns $100 thousand a year spending $200 on a pen.

If they like pens, that isn't so bad. Everything is relative.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: pi on August 30, 2012, 11:31:53 pm
Just got this google ad ffs

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2enno2g.png)
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Surgeon on August 30, 2012, 11:39:43 pm
Just got this google ad ffs

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2enno2g.png)

What's wrong with that?
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: TheFedExpress on August 30, 2012, 11:43:15 pm
For example, I could easily call a person who goes out to buy FIFA '12 a douche just because FIFA '10 is like $20 and is similar.

....blasphemy!

+1 Somye! FIFA isn't just a game....it's a way of life! I'm holding out for FIFA 13!!!!!! (to add to my '07, '08,'09,'10,'11,'12)



Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: TheFedExpress on August 30, 2012, 11:43:44 pm
Thanks for all the replies guys..........
Available at office works?

I live in Bairnsdale so can't answer that for sure sorry! Mum just got it at the little newsagents, so I'd say OfficeWorks should have them.
Looking on their website, they seem to have the retractable ones, mine has a cap as was shown in the pic.
Well worth the effort to go and get one i reckon.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Somye on August 31, 2012, 06:36:41 pm
For example, I could easily call a person who goes out to buy FIFA '12 a douche just because FIFA '10 is like $20 and is similar.

....blasphemy!

+1 Somye! FIFA isn't just a game....it's a way of life! I'm holding out for FIFA 13!!!!!! (to add to my '07, '08,'09,'10,'11,'12)

You can't believe how tempted I am to pre-order it..... It's just that the moment I do, my ATAR drops by 10...
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: AllAboutTheLGs on September 01, 2012, 12:29:22 am
I'm pre-ordering it... #YOLO
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: charmanderp on September 01, 2012, 02:00:14 pm
Like I said, with a normal pen I average between 1100-1200 words per hour. With a fountain pen I can write between 1300-1400, if not more. So I'd say it's worth the extra money if it works for you.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Bhootnike on September 01, 2012, 03:28:18 pm
Like I said, with a normal pen I average between 1100-1200 words per hour. With a fountain pen I can write between 1300-1400, if not more. So I'd say it's worth the extra money if it works for you.

and if you dont steal pens - and provided you dont lose your fountain pen, in the long term, it saves you money :p
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: charmanderp on September 01, 2012, 03:38:22 pm
Like I said, with a normal pen I average between 1100-1200 words per hour. With a fountain pen I can write between 1300-1400, if not more. So I'd say it's worth the extra money if it works for you.

and if you dont steal pens - and provided you dont lose your fountain pen, in the long term, it saves you money :p
Yup.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: TheFedExpress on September 01, 2012, 04:05:28 pm
For example, I could easily call a person who goes out to buy FIFA '12 a douche just because FIFA '10 is like $20 and is similar.

....blasphemy!

+1 Somye! FIFA isn't just a game....it's a way of life! I'm holding out for FIFA 13!!!!!! (to add to my '07, '08,'09,'10,'11,'12)

You can't believe how tempted I am to pre-order it..... It's just that the moment I do, my ATAR drops by 10...

That is might thought exactly! But I know my brother will buy it the day it comes out, so I'm going to have to lock it in a vault somewhere. The timing could not be worse!
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: TheFedExpress on September 01, 2012, 05:29:09 pm
Like I said, with a normal pen I average between 1100-1200 words per hour. With a fountain pen I can write between 1300-1400, if not more. So I'd say it's worth the extra money if it works for you.

What fountain pen do you use? And in an exam would you take in refills to be safe?
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: gibsonaxxxs on September 01, 2012, 05:58:08 pm
bring 2x$2000 pens, a super-smart-at-English bodyguard to guard them (apply for special consideration first), and get him to do ur essay
DONE
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: charmanderp on September 02, 2012, 04:01:50 pm
Like I said, with a normal pen I average between 1100-1200 words per hour. With a fountain pen I can write between 1300-1400, if not more. So I'd say it's worth the extra money if it works for you.

What fountain pen do you use? And in an exam would you take in refills to be safe?
A Sheaffer (not sure what the thickness is) and yes, I take in refill cartridges.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Bhootnike on September 02, 2012, 04:29:05 pm
Like I said, with a normal pen I average between 1100-1200 words per hour. With a fountain pen I can write between 1300-1400, if not more. So I'd say it's worth the extra money if it works for you.

What fountain pen do you use? And in an exam would you take in refills to be safe?
A Sheaffer (not sure what the thickness is) and yes, I take in refill cartridges.

what type of sheaffer ?
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: tortoise on September 02, 2012, 04:40:20 pm
Didn't know a thread about pens would be so interesting..
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: TheFedExpress on September 02, 2012, 09:07:41 pm
Like I said, with a normal pen I average between 1100-1200 words per hour. With a fountain pen I can write between 1300-1400, if not more. So I'd say it's worth the extra money if it works for you.

What fountain pen do you use? And in an exam would you take in refills to be safe?
A Sheaffer (not sure what the thickness is) and yes, I take in refill cartridges.

Whoah! Just had a quick look and some Sheaffers are like $300+ from Pen Palace in Melbourne.

If you don't mind me asking, is your pen in this price range or can you get good ones for less? And if it isn't too hard to say, what sort of price range should I look at for a reliable fountain pen?
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: charmanderp on September 02, 2012, 09:19:38 pm
I bought a pack of 3 fountain pens, a tutorial book and about 15 ink cartridges for $20! It was on sale from $40, but there's no way I'd spend more than $10 for a pen haha.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Bhootnike on September 02, 2012, 09:44:01 pm
Like I said, with a normal pen I average between 1100-1200 words per hour. With a fountain pen I can write between 1300-1400, if not more. So I'd say it's worth the extra money if it works for you.

What fountain pen do you use? And in an exam would you take in refills to be safe?
A Sheaffer (not sure what the thickness is) and yes, I take in refill cartridges.

Whoah! Just had a quick look and some Sheaffers are like $300+ from Pen Palace in Melbourne.

If you don't mind me asking, is your pen in this price range or can you get good ones for less? And if it isn't too hard to say, what sort of price range should I look at for a reliable fountain pen?

if you want a cheap fountain pen, go to pen city in melbourne and ask them. they have a huge range with some good prices ..
i got a parker frontier cheap from there.. 60 bucks.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: TheFedExpress on September 02, 2012, 10:34:20 pm
I bought a pack of 3 fountain pens, a tutorial book and about 15 ink cartridges for $20! It was on sale from $40, but there's no way I'd spend more than $10 for a pen haha.
Oh haha! Was that your Sheaffer? Where did you get it and how have you found them? (sorry for the bombardment of questions!)

Like I said, with a normal pen I average between 1100-1200 words per hour. With a fountain pen I can write between 1300-1400, if not more. So I'd say it's worth the extra money if it works for you.

What fountain pen do you use? And in an exam would you take in refills to be safe?
A Sheaffer (not sure what the thickness is) and yes, I take in refill cartridges.

Whoah! Just had a quick look and some Sheaffers are like $300+ from Pen Palace in Melbourne.

If you don't mind me asking, is your pen in this price range or can you get good ones for less? And if it isn't too hard to say, what sort of price range should I look at for a reliable fountain pen?

if you want a cheap fountain pen, go to pen city in melbourne and ask them. they have a huge range with some good prices ..
i got a parker frontier cheap from there.. 60 bucks.


OK cool thanks for the advice, how have you found your Frontier?
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Bhootnike on September 02, 2012, 11:46:25 pm
haha frontier was good, not in regular use atm, using my other ones more.

id suggest getting a lamy safari.
theyre cheap, durable and fancy.
and good. defz worth the $$
many  newbies get them..!

btw charmanderp. is your sheaffer a fountain pen fountain pen, or that calligraphy set??!
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Camo on September 03, 2012, 11:56:25 pm
Writing with pens. #yolo.

Seriously, just something you have a good grip on. Pretty sure there was a thread with this last year. But man, just whatever your comfortable with.
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Chease on September 04, 2012, 09:05:59 am
I buy customised pens that are well balanced so i can spin them during the exam.

Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: BoredSatan on September 04, 2012, 04:32:57 pm
I'm pre-ordering it... #YOLO
Glenny kids are fearless bastards :D

I held out on DOTA for the whole of year 12 last year..
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: yearningforsimplicity on September 04, 2012, 05:35:50 pm
Omg guys! This pen is the only pen you'll ever need - it's gelly but not smudgy, writes for thousands of kilometres ("Kilometrico"), it's got a thin nib (like 0.7 I think) so it's good for cursive writers and it has a nice grip :P and since it's got a thin barrel it doesn't make your hand cramp up so yay! :D

(http://www.officeworks.com.au/ims_docs/4D/4D6F6B6007A903C2E1008000AC193D36.JPG)
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: FlorianK on September 04, 2012, 10:20:58 pm
Omg guys! This pen is the only pen you'll ever need - it's gelly but not smudgy, writes for thousands of kilometres ("Kilometrico"), it's got a thin nib (like 0.7 I think) so it's good for cursive writers and it has a nice grip :P and since it's got a thin barrel it doesn't make your hand cramp up so yay! :D

(http://www.officeworks.com.au/ims_docs/4D/4D6F6B6007A903C2E1008000AC193D36.JPG)
Where can you buy it?
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: yearningforsimplicity on September 04, 2012, 10:52:50 pm
Omg guys! This pen is the only pen you'll ever need - it's gelly but not smudgy, writes for thousands of kilometres ("Kilometrico"), it's got a thin nib (like 0.7 I think) so it's good for cursive writers and it has a nice grip :P and since it's got a thin barrel it doesn't make your hand cramp up so yay! :D

(http://www.officeworks.com.au/ims_docs/4D/4D6F6B6007A903C2E1008000AC193D36.JPG)
Where can you buy it?

I think most places - but you'd definitely find it in officeworks, safeway, newsagents :)
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: sjayne on January 26, 2013, 10:07:48 pm
So I know this is an old thread and all.. but paper mate inkjoy FTW
Title: Re: Pen for English Exam?
Post by: Yacoubb on January 26, 2013, 11:55:22 pm
I actually thought I was the only one concerned about pen selections for English exams. It is because you need to write about 2000+ words for the 3 essays your doing quite quickly, and so your hand can cramp easily. I LOVE writing use paper-mate 4 pens because the grip is AMAZING and the ink easily comes out. Another good pen are those click pens that come in blue/black/red. They're amazing because ink comes out with ease.

Another tip - if you write in block writing (i.e. not capital, but rather the standard writing), trying writing in cursive or an a slight italicised font; This is good for speed and also enables you to relax your hands whilst writing. The cramp however, is inevitable; you have to go your hand muscles some time to relax after such strenuous activites for the fingers, arm + forearm. Good luck 2013'ers... I still have one year to experiment before I need to make up my mind as to what pen I shall utilise in this Exam :D