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UoM Extension Program Help
« on: December 03, 2014, 09:00:15 am »
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Hey everyone,
I was referred to by my teacher to undertake the extension program in year 12 (2015) and Ive got a couple of questions that I'm hoping someone could clarify for me.

Does mathematics at UoM have an increment towards my ATAR? Some people say it doesn't but the website doesn't say anything about so I am a little confused!

Also, has anyone done this previously and could fill me in on the experience and such, thank you!
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Re: UoM Extension Program Help
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2014, 08:11:34 pm »
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I did UoM Extension Maths in 2013, so hopefully I can answer some questions.

Does mathematics at UoM have an increment towards my ATAR?

Yes. A few points here:

  • It takes the place of one of your 5th/6th subjects, i.e. you will only have (at most) ONE normal VCE subject of which 10% of the scaled study score is taken for the aggregate.
  • The amount of increment is given by the table here. Ignore the Equivalent VCE study score bit.

Also, has anyone done this previously and could fill me in on the experience and such, thank you!

The experience is highly dependent on which school you go to to attend classes, I think. My classes were kind of half-interactive; the teacher would spend about an hour or so going through material (kind of like in a lecture), and the rest of the time was spent pretty much working on problems individually or in groups.

The subject is the equivalent of MAST10008 Accelerated Mathematics 1 (excluding MATLAB content), except taken over a full year, unlike the extension program for other subjects which cover the content of 2 university subjects during the year. If you want to know more about the content you could visit the subject reviews on the forum for MAST10008.

From memory there were 6 or so assignments, totalling 10% of the grade. You have a 3 hour examination and a 2 hour examination which is normally after all VCE examinations, and these 2 exams together make up the other 90% of the grade.

Other information should be available here: http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/info/school-students/extension-program .
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Re: UoM Extension Program Help
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2014, 09:48:06 pm »
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If you haven't already, I believe applications have closed.

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Re: UoM Extension Program Help
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2014, 10:03:43 pm »
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I did UoM Extension Maths in 2013, so hopefully I can answer some questions.

Yes. A few points here:

  • It takes the place of one of your 5th/6th subjects, i.e. you will only have (at most) ONE normal VCE subject of which 10% of the scaled study score is taken for the aggregate.
  • The amount of increment is given by the table here. Ignore the Equivalent VCE study score bit.

The experience is highly dependent on which school you go to to attend classes, I think. My classes were kind of half-interactive; the teacher would spend about an hour or so going through material (kind of like in a lecture), and the rest of the time was spent pretty much working on problems individually or in groups.

The subject is the equivalent of MAST10008 Accelerated Mathematics 1 (excluding MATLAB content), except taken over a full year, unlike the extension program for other subjects which cover the content of 2 university subjects during the year. If you want to know more about the content you could visit the subject reviews on the forum for MAST10008.

From memory there were 6 or so assignments, totalling 10% of the grade. You have a 3 hour examination and a 2 hour examination which is normally after all VCE examinations, and these 2 exams together make up the other 90% of the grade.

Other information should be available here: http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/info/school-students/extension-program .
Thank you, will definitely check out the website. Is it hard though? I have heard its crazy hard... Kinda scared lol
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Re: UoM Extension Program Help
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2014, 10:04:15 pm »
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If you haven't already, I believe applications have closed.
Ive applied already, but not yet sent in the documents
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Re: UoM Extension Program Help
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2014, 11:24:31 am »
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Thank you, will definitely check out the website. Is it hard though? I have heard its crazy hard... Kinda scared lol

I wouldn't say it's hard - but it's certainly different, and it's different that causes most people to find it to be hard.

Let's be honest, here - since year 7, you've dabbled in algebra. You continued dabbling in year 8, 9 and even 10, and you honestly haven't made much leg-way. Then, you get to VCE, and for year 11 you take methods. Methods actually takes you somewhere with algebra, and so for a few people, methods is incredibly hard because they're not used to spending less than three years to cover a single concept.

Then, at the end of year 11, you might choose to do specialist in year 12. So, you take specialist - and all of a sudden, you deal with these weird things called "vectors". And "complex numbers". And you've never seen any of this before - but you might understand it, and might do well in it. However, a few of your friends are so confused by these new concepts (because they're not used to seeing things without dabbling in them for several years earlier) that they find specialist too hard to continue with, and so drop down to method.

Starting university maths is sort of like an in-between of the two - doing it as extension would be like starting specialist. You start off with linear algebra (ie vectors) - you've never really done anything with it before, and up until now you're used to having seen the basic concept over and over again before you start to move on. This time, you move on at the same pace that you've seen the basic concept. Thankfully, it would get easier with the second topic (functions of multiple variables) - you've dabbled in the basic concept before, but still the lecturers are going to set a pace, and you'll be expected to keep up.

So, it's not hard - you've just not seen it before, and its the unknown that people find scary.

(note: I did not do extension maths, I just have an idea of the material)

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Re: UoM Extension Program Help
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2014, 11:32:09 am »
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Hmmm.. sounds interesting, I feel like I should do it for a challenge (not that specialist and methods are already challenging me) but like, a SERIOUS challenge. But at the same time, my mates are telling me that its a waste of time and I should only focus on my current subjects. I feel like I would enjoy the experience though, should I go for it? :)
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Re: UoM Extension Program Help
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2014, 11:36:48 am »
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Hmmm.. sounds interesting, I feel like I should do it for a challenge (not that specialist and methods are already challenging me) but like, a SERIOUS challenge. But at the same time, my mates are telling me that its a waste of time and I should only focus on my current subjects. I feel like I would enjoy the experience though, should I go for it? :)

If you want to do it, and you'd feel like you'd enjoy it, then you do it. If it gets too hard, you should have a census period up until you're allowed to drop out with zero repercussions - if you don't find it particularly challenging before then (or even if you find it a little before then), I can't see the subject being a problem for you if you complete the whole thing (assuming you stay on top of the work).

Granted, others who have actually been through the subject may think differently to me, and their experiences would definitely outweigh mine. :P