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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8640 on: April 14, 2017, 11:08:31 am »
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Hey,
is is this type of question still in the study design??
eg. Find the integral of 1\(x^2 + 1)^2 using the substitution x=tan u

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8641 on: April 14, 2017, 03:35:06 pm »
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Hey,
is is this type of question still in the study design??
eg. Find the integral of 1\(x^2 + 1)^2 using the substitution x=tan u

thq

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8642 on: April 21, 2017, 04:18:15 pm »
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Why is the area the derivative of the volume? This has been explained before, but I still dont intuitively understand why
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8643 on: April 21, 2017, 04:34:25 pm »
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Why is the area the derivative of the volume? This has been explained before, but I still dont intuitively understand why

Hey! Here's a quick-and-dirty way of understanding it...
We can define a infinitesimal volume dV as . If we rearrange this, we obtain . (this is using differentials, which is kind of dodgy in VCE Spesh but nonetheless works).
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8644 on: April 23, 2017, 01:05:43 pm »
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How would you integrate this using u substitution by hand? Thnx
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8645 on: April 23, 2017, 01:21:12 pm »
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This is linear substitution so a little different from usually substitution

From this we also can say that







now let's sub back in the x's

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8646 on: April 23, 2017, 04:36:57 pm »
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http://m.imgur.com/SgAvlZd

Will VCAA accept if we write the answer for part a and b like this:
a) y= e^(1/2x^2 +c)
b) y= e^(1/12x^3 +c)

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8647 on: April 23, 2017, 07:28:31 pm »
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http://m.imgur.com/SgAvlZd

Will VCAA accept if we write the answer for part a and b like this:
a) y= e^(1/2x^2 +c)
b) y= e^(1/12x^3 +c)

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Yup it's fine - and most exams will give you initial conditions to allow you to solve for c
You could also do something like this



Where A = e^c (though I always thought this was a bit over the top)

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8648 on: April 24, 2017, 12:04:55 am »
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Yup it's fine - and most exams will give you initial conditions to allow you to solve for c
You could also do something like this



Where A = e^c (though I always thought this was a bit over the top)
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Also when they give you that initial condition, sometimes the differential equation will cause you to take the square root or have 'y' inside the natural log. This means when solving for 'y' you'll need to determine if y is positive or negative square root/modulus if you choose to make y the subject. Is this necessary to solve for y or would leaving the differential equation as "y^2=..." or ln|y|=... be okay?

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8649 on: April 24, 2017, 08:18:42 am »
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Thanks.

Also when they give you that initial condition, sometimes the differential equation will cause you to take the square root or have 'y' inside the natural log. This means when solving for 'y' you'll need to determine if y is positive or negative square root/modulus if you choose to make y the subject. Is this necessary to solve for y or would leaving the differential equation as "y^2=..." or ln|y|=... be okay?
Usually y will have a restriction such that you will be able to determine what you can and can't assume.

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8650 on: April 24, 2017, 08:31:44 am »
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Also Sine mentioned before sometimes they make it into Ae1/2x2 for example - this is often so they can get rid of the modulus sign, as A is ħec
So if you had |y|=e1/2x2+c you could make it into y=Ae1/2x2, and solve for A without having to worry about whether it's positive or negative (finding A will determine that)
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8651 on: April 24, 2017, 05:43:59 pm »
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Does anyone know how to sketch subsets of the complex plane (e.g. circles, rays etc.) using a CAS? If anyone knows please let me know.
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8652 on: April 25, 2017, 03:04:16 pm »
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http://m.imgur.com/a/59FOR

For part b) I understand the working on the image of the solution but I don't understand why you have to do it like that? Isn't the volume constant, so wouldn't the rate out = x/400 * 1. Therefore dy/dx = 2/5 - x/400? So V = 400, not 400 + t?

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8653 on: April 25, 2017, 10:43:44 pm »
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http://m.imgur.com/a/59FOR

For part b) I understand the working on the image of the solution but I don't understand why you have to do it like that? Isn't the volume constant, so wouldn't the rate out = x/400 * 1. Therefore dy/dx = 2/5 - x/400? So V = 400, not 400 + t?

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For part b, the flow in is 2 L/min and flow out is 1 L/min. As these are not the same, the volume changes as the amount of water going in is more than the amount going out, so the volume will increase, that's why you can't use a constant volume.
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8654 on: April 26, 2017, 08:43:07 pm »
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^^^Thanks.

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