VCE: Literature vs English Language.

[paulsterio]

I read the first post (nothing else) and it seems that you are really emphasising the difficulty of literature...
I do literature and not English. I am not a strong English student and I also hate reading. But I am still hoping for a 30-35 in literature. I hope I don't regret this choice...

Why did you choose Literature then?

[charmanderp]

I read the first post (nothing else) and it seems that you are really emphasising the difficulty of literature...
I do literature and not English. I am not a strong English student and I also hate reading. But I am still hoping for a 30-35 in literature. I hope I don't regret this choice...

Literature isn't really more difficult than English, don't let it bother you. I found it a lot easier, to be honest, but it comes down to the individual. If you want any tips feel free to hit me up.

[Bhootnike]

WOW. english language is definitely not easier than english. i'm on stuggle street over here.... :S

See!? And Kaille I was there too dw, best I could say is try make your OWN models of how language works - and also the most important thing is good examples!

can you please elaborate on making own models thushan!? sounds like a great idea which ive never thought about!

[thushan]

Bhootnike - like for instance - I derived a concept that language, mere words and sounds cannot irritate or be seen as low-class or whatever, it's simply the associations - and merely associations. I used that concept in all of my essays. Another example is when you look at jargon, euphemism, etc etc see they have features in common - they all have SPECIFIC FEATURES that make the language register SUITABLE for the purpose. see how I used a framework to explain everything? Everything makes MUCH more sense!

[charmanderp]

Bhootnike - like for instance - I derived a concept that language, mere words and sounds cannot irritate or be seen as low-class or whatever, it's simply the associations - and merely associations. I used that concept in all of my essays. Another example is when you look at jargon, euphemism, etc etc see they have features in common - they all have SPECIFIC FEATURES that make the language register SUITABLE for the purpose. see how I used a framework to explain everything? Everything makes MUCH more sense!

Being creative and original got you good marks? Who would have thought?!

[Bhootnike]

Bhootnike - like for instance - I derived a concept that language, mere words and sounds cannot irritate or be seen as low-class or whatever, it's simply the associations - and merely associations. I used that concept in all of my essays. Another example is when you look at jargon, euphemism, etc etc see they have features in common - they all have SPECIFIC FEATURES that make the language register SUITABLE for the purpose. see how I used a framework to explain everything? Everything makes MUCH more sense!

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im about to commit a deadly sin.
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Isn't that just something we learn in English language anyway tho ? like, my teacher has talked about both those points hahah. haven't done many essays at school yet, so haven't applied it to any of my work :p
mm, tbh im sort of confused :p I don't get what you mean by using a framework now hahha

do you mean to say like, if through my study, I establish a theory of my own which I can backup through evidence, that will earn good marks  in an essay ?

[pi]

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im about to commit a deadly sin.

Mate, that's an understatement.

You just attempted to contradict Thushan.

Good luck buddy

[Bhootnike]

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im about to commit a deadly sin.

Mate, that's an understatement.

You just attempted to contradict Thushan.

Good luck buddy

Maybe he'll leave some peace in my soul cause we're both curries? :p you know ? sorta like mates rates!

[thushan]

Bhootnike - like for instance - I derived a concept that language, mere words and sounds cannot irritate or be seen as low-class or whatever, it's simply the associations - and merely associations. I used that concept in all of my essays. Another example is when you look at jargon, euphemism, etc etc see they have features in common - they all have SPECIFIC FEATURES that make the language register SUITABLE for the purpose. see how I used a framework to explain everything? Everything makes MUCH more sense!

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im about to commit a deadly sin.
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Isn't that just something we learn in English language anyway tho ? like, my teacher has talked about both those points hahah. haven't done many essays at school yet, so haven't applied it to any of my work :p
mm, tbh im sort of confused :p I don't get what you mean by using a framework now hahha

do you mean to say like, if through my study, I establish a theory of my own which I can backup through evidence, that will earn good marks  in an essay ?

Yup - it's talked about in class, but I don't think its emphasised enough. I'm talking about the realisation that language and judgement is basically a mix-and-match and has basically NOTHING to do with intrinsic properties of sounds...

As for the second point - was it talked about in your class? It wasn't talked about in mine to any great depth - I had to work that out for myself... :/

LOL what you mean by deadly sin??

[dilks]

What about the Bouba/Kiki Effect?

[Bhootnike]

Ohh okay. I get you hahaah :p
and yeah, well actually, the second point in particular has been rubbed into our faces all throughout the year! ~ e.g. jargon has many features, namely on of marking group identity, and also allowing for more efficient communication.
So classic case I find is for example, consider a gaming lounge, where a bunch of computer kids talking away about their GTX-1000 and the i.c7, 16gb ram and 1tB hard-disk. This allows for more precise and efficient communication, and most importantly, this language use is a part of the 'gaming' register!


deadly sin - i hate contradicting you Thushan. that's all

[thushan]

You've got a good grasp of the stuff I have to say! And a good teacher

I actually had to make the model for myself because I had to take the class for a couple of weeks...