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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #2565 on: July 08, 2020, 07:50:40 pm »
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hi, is anyone studying wordsworth poetry for section A of the exam this year?
other than the ten or so poems my school has prescribed for study, is it worth it to be familiar with all the poems in the collection (selected by Seamus Heaney)? many of the poems are a few pages long so I'm finding it daunting to make myself look at them..


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« Reply #2566 on: July 09, 2020, 11:52:08 am »
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Hi I was wondering if regards to the end of year english exam, are we expected to write 4 body paragraphs for both the comparative and analytical? Will we lose marks if we write 3 lengthy body paragraphs instead?

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« Reply #2567 on: July 09, 2020, 01:21:36 pm »
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Hi I was wondering if regards to the end of year english exam, are we expected to write 4 body paragraphs for both the comparative and analytical? Will we lose marks if we write 3 lengthy body paragraphs instead?

For text response/ comparative, the normal length is three paragraphs. In terms of language analysis, structure depends on how you determine your arguments. e.g. you could have seven small paragraphs or just three chunky paragraphs - structure is up to you.
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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #2568 on: July 09, 2020, 01:34:15 pm »
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Hi I was wondering if regards to the end of year english exam, are we expected to write 4 body paragraphs for both the comparative and analytical? Will we lose marks if we write 3 lengthy body paragraphs instead?
Nah 3-4 is fine and perfectly normal.  Although it isn't marked directly I think you start to fall into a trap if you go to 2 paragraphs since assessors will say your analysis is too narrow. Going with too many paragraphs will give the impression that your analysis is only superficial.

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« Reply #2569 on: July 09, 2020, 07:09:16 pm »
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How to overcome a bias teacher who hates you? She’s constantly marking me down and there’s nothing I can do about it. She doesn’t help me if I ask but she’ll help other people and hand back their work even people who hand it in late! I get my work back less than 12 hours before the SAC and it’s so vague. Should I get a tutor for exams? I can’t dob in on this teacher because I need to get good unit 4 marks and making her hate me more would just screw it up. I was aiming for above 40 study score but it’s not looking possible if my teacher refuses to cooperate.
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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #2570 on: July 10, 2020, 11:08:39 am »
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How to overcome a bias teacher who hates you? She’s constantly marking me down and there’s nothing I can do about it. She doesn’t help me if I ask but she’ll help other people and hand back their work even people who hand it in late! I get my work back less than 12 hours before the SAC and it’s so vague. Should I get a tutor for exams? I can’t dob in on this teacher because I need to get good unit 4 marks and making her hate me more would just screw it up. I was aiming for above 40 study score but it’s not looking possible if my teacher refuses to cooperate.
My easy answer is if she helps other people, get them to hand in your work and get feedback, if it's not for an assessment. She should be fair.
I think you should talk to another teacher or something - this is definitely not fair in any way, shape or form (assuming you're reporting it how it is, of course :) no offense)
If the teacher isn't fair someone needs to know about it. You could try talking to the teacher too, maybe - perhaps it's just misunderstanding or something? Say what your goal is and try to be friendly and non-confrontational.
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I don't know what to do really... never been in situation myself... though I had a teacher I didn't like and the feeling was thoroughly mutual but still marked fair (though there was bias in class as to who she'd help etc.) And then I didn't do very well because I went, oh well, I hate this subj. now coz teacher and useless work to do; didn't turn out well.
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« Reply #2571 on: July 13, 2020, 06:16:34 pm »
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Hello! Hope everyone is well. I'm from Qld and this is our first year of ATAR so we have zero past papers to refer to. The book I'm studying for English is The Poisonwood Bible by Barbara Kingsolver and my teacher has told us that HSC & VCE students study it. I've tried really hard by combing back through lots of practice papers to find some questions to help my revision and I've had no luck in finding any reference to the book. Could anyone possibly direct me to where some past papers are on the Poisonwood Bible for VCE? It's quite possible that the syllabus has been changed or something, or potentially I misheard my teacher when she said VCE. It could also be in another one of the kinds of English subjects, so if you know which one, please let me know.
Any help would be much, much appreciated! Thank you :)

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« Reply #2572 on: July 13, 2020, 06:36:47 pm »
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I'm no authority, but I don't remember seeing that name on the list when I looked through it for English to see what our teacher was picking from. I don't remember ever seeing that name before and I probably would remember it, but again, I don't know because I looked before the start of this year.
Having looked at the book list I cannot see it on there - for VCE English, mind. I don't know about others.
You can check the list of all the books for other subjects - I found it by searching 'vce english texts'. It was the first return.
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« Reply #2573 on: July 13, 2020, 07:53:58 pm »
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I'm no authority, but I don't remember seeing that name on the list when I looked through it for English to see what our teacher was picking from. I don't remember ever seeing that name before and I probably would remember it, but again, I don't know because I looked before the start of this year.
Having looked at the book list I cannot see it on there - for VCE English, mind. I don't know about others.
You can check the list of all the books for other subjects - I found it by searching 'vce english texts'. It was the first return.
Hope that helps!

OK, Thanks for letting me know! Really appreciate it. Best of luck with everything :)

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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #2574 on: July 20, 2020, 04:11:51 pm »
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Does anyone have the PDF of The Dressmaker and LitCharts PDF of the Dressmaker?

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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #2575 on: July 20, 2020, 09:29:49 pm »
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Just a quick question: do we need to analyse every single quote we use in a text response essay? Or are we allowed to add quotes to 'fill' sentences (if that makes sense, I'll leave an example down below.)

Is just that my teachers always tell me that I need to use more quotes, yet I don't think its possible for me to analyse every quote in detail?

Using it as a filler: Hecuba remains optimistic that Astyanax will grow up up to be the saviour of Troy, thus instilling hope in herself and Andromache
OR Astyanax had to ‘give up [his] life,’ due to his ‘fathers courage,’ to prevent revenges occurring in the future.

Analysing it: Andromache represents the Athenian vision of a ‘perfect wife,’ who never ‘wanted to leave [Hector’s] home.’ By referring to their shared house as Hector’s, it is evident that men withhold all tangible properties, and women have no value for themselves.

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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #2576 on: July 20, 2020, 10:00:45 pm »
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Just a quick question: do we need to analyse every single quote we use in a text response essay? Or are we allowed to add quotes to 'fill' sentences (if that makes sense, I'll leave an example down below.)

Is just that my teachers always tell me that I need to use more quotes, yet I don't think its possible for me to analyse every quote in detail?

Using it as a filler: Hecuba remains optimistic that Astyanax will grow up up to be the saviour of Troy, thus instilling hope in herself and Andromache
OR Astyanax had to ‘give up [his] life,’ due to his ‘fathers courage,’ to prevent revenges occurring in the future.

Analysing it: Andromache represents the Athenian vision of a ‘perfect wife,’ who never ‘wanted to leave [Hector’s] home.’ By referring to their shared house as Hector’s, it is evident that men withhold all tangible properties, and women have no value for themselves.

Thank you!

I'm pretty sure it's fine to use the drop in quotes without analysing them, I did it often. As long as you have enough quotes that are being analysed it's okay.
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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #2577 on: July 21, 2020, 02:47:04 pm »
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I'm pretty sure it's fine to use the drop in quotes without analysing them, I did it often. As long as you have enough quotes that are being analysed it's okay.
Also. I also. But I don't get very good marks, so I don't know.
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« Reply #2578 on: July 29, 2020, 06:54:31 pm »
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How do you use nominalisation and incorporate it into text response essays? Is it also necessary for comparitive?

Also in text response what is authorial intent? Is it like how the audience intends to position (although never use this word) the audience in language analysis?
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« Reply #2579 on: July 29, 2020, 07:14:59 pm »
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How do you use nominalisation and incorporate it into text response essays? Is it also necessary for comparitive?

Also in text response what is authorial intent? Is it like how the audience intends to position (although never use this word) the audience in language analysis?
1. It's not exactly necessary, but it's good to use if you find yourself lapsing into summative-style writing. You basically turn the verb into a noun. Example:
Atwood portrays Penelope as a principally flawed character who is a product of the patriarchy around her.
Atwood's portrayal of Penelope as a principally flawed character who is a product of the patriarchy around her suggests...
It basically forces you to analyse.

2. Authorial intent is the views and values the writer is trying to communicate through certain things. It's basically their overall, broader comment on life. Drawing upon my previous example, Atwood's portrayal of Penelope as "" suggests that women often fall victim to societal pressures, forcing them to take extreme measures to ensure their survival in a misogynistic world radically opposed to their existence. Authorial intent is the broader statement they are making through certain characters and themes, in essence.

Hope this helped!
(I used The Penelopiad to draw from, as that's one of the texts I'm studying. The same stuff applies to all texts though. :P)
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