BSc/BE @ monash?

[98.40_for_sure]

im in year 12 this year and im gonna put down bachelor of science/bachelor of engineering @ monash as my 1st preference
is anyone doing this and can give me any information? im one of those people that are really unsure bout what they wanna do so this seems like the broadest option to me. engineering seems like a good idea to do because i can get the enter score required and i heard they get a decent pay (starting salary of 70k+? or something like that), probably chemical is the only type that appeals a bit. and science as i want to do astronomy/astrophysics as it is something that interests me

thanks guys!

[crappy]

im in year 12 this year and im gonna put down bachelor of science/bachelor of engineering @ monash as my 1st preference
is anyone doing this and can give me any information? im one of those people that are really unsure bout what they wanna do so this seems like the broadest option to me. engineering seems like a good idea to do because i can get the enter score required and i heard they get a decent pay (starting salary of 70k+? or something like that), probably chemical is the only type that appeals a bit. and science as i want to do astronomy/astrophysics as it is something that interests me

thanks guys!

Im doing eng/sci at monash.

Overall, I would say I made the wrong decision by picking a double degree and that's why Im switching to straight eng this semester(me and 4 of my friends).
Mainly because Im not happy with the science faculty in monash. First year physics is incredibly unorganised and is led by the most brain dead physics professor known to man.

Honestly, if you're going to pick engineering because you can get the enter score and like the salary, then I would advise against it. Its hard, many people drop out because they cant keep up with the pace and probably because they don't find it interesting after a few years. But, really, if you're dead set on the double degree, then go for it. If chemical eng appeals to you then you might want to ask Mao, as he recently just dropped his chem eng degree.

Oh yeah, for astrophysics, Ive been told that it gets insanely mathematical as you go into third year, so if you're good at maths and can handle a lot of number crunching then astrophysics would be a good choice. First year astronomy is pretty much entirely theory with a few calculations thrown in, but in essence, its just a bludge.

If you need anymore insight, ask away.
 

 

[jimmy999]

I also do Eng/Sci at Monash, and more specifically do Chemical engineering. Although I've only done 1 semester of it, the first year chem eng unit has been very heavy on the maths. In fact every single problem we've done has been maths-based. However seeing as you do spesh I can make an assumption that you like maths so it shouldn't be a problem. Chem eng has included a bit of Chemistry including stoichiometry, reactions and some thermochemistry (unit 4 stuff). It also involves a bit of physics, basic physics so you'll be okay skipping Foundation physics next year (a subject for those who didn't do year 12 physics).

If you do the double degree then you'll have to complete a maths minor and first year chemistry. However if you want to do astrophysics, you may have to end up doing 1st year physics and then do astro in 2nd year.

If you only like science, then the double degree is a good choice. Then after first year if you don't like one then you can drop it and move into a single degree. If you like maths then you should enjoy chemical engineering. There's a lot of stuff in it but I just learnt to follow certain formulas and it become a fun subject

[98.40_for_sure]

aiyah... so it seems like its all maths maths maths! D: kinda worried now
i wouldnt say im good at maths... im "ok" and i dont mind doing it, not enjoy it, and i wouldnt really want to do it for a living...
ive got a few more courses that appeal a bit to me
if anyones done these/heard about them. can you let me know?
behavioural neuroscience @ monash
biotechnology @ monash
biomedical science @ monash (possibly considering doing a double degree with Sci or Eng)

[jimmy999]

To let you know, there were quite a number of people in that subject who hadn't done Specialist maths, and they were able to cope with it. It's been heavy on the maths. If you're able to do a fair amount of maths problems, then you should be fine for it

[98.40_for_sure]

ohh jimmy, i just been erading the monash course pages
and... it says for first year i can only pick one of a few
like im 100% sure i wanna do the astronomy 2
does that mean i cant do the physics?

im looking at http://www.monash.edu.au/pubs/handbooks/courses/0085.html
under chemical engineering level one

Select one pair of science units from:

    * ASP1010 Earth to cosmos - introductory astronomy and ASP1022 Life and the universe
    * BIO1011 Biology I and BIO1022 Biology II
    * ESC1011 Planet earth and its environment: the cosmic connection and ESC1022 Planet earth: dynamic systems, environmental change and resources
    * FIT1002 Computer programming and FIT1008 Computer science
    * PHS1011 Physics (or PHS1080 Foundation physics) and PHS1022 Physics
    * STA1010 Statistical methods for science and MTH1112 Numbers, logic and graphs

cos i wanna do foundation physics as well as ASP ones
im sorry for bad explanation

[Mao]

So, you want to do chem eng. and science, a very popular combination. Let me explain a few things:

From the course planning perspective, maths is always going to be in there [you have to major], and you have room for another major, and that's it. You don't have room for another minor, you only get to study two topics at the second and third level. You do have some leeway in first year though, and that is one set of electives.

If you choose to major in chemistry [and you would want to if you picked 'chemical engineering' for the chemistry, because there's not much], you would want the other first year sequence to be physics, especially if you haven't done year 12 physics. Newtonian physics will bite you like a bitch if you don't. The physics department is so shit beyond description, but you'll still need the knowledge.

If you choose to major in physics, lucky you. Enjoy the worst physics department ever for three years. Menzies is quite tall, feel free to jump off it.

If you choose to major in something else, good for you. Make sure you brush up on your statics and dynamics because you won't be able to fit physics in there.

If you don't like maths, stay clear of engineering. Do biomed or something where you don't have to worry about numbers.

As for the engineering side:

In first year, you are going to be breezing through it. Anyone with a bit of computing background will kill the computing unit, anyone with a bit of math background [chemistry isn't even needed] will kill the chem eng unit.

In second year, shit will go down. These units are much harder with a much higher fail rate. Even if you were a high achiever (99) at VCE, you're probably only looking at ~60 to ~70 for these units, about a third of the cohort repeats.

[98.40_for_sure]

farkkkk im so confused lol
i wanna do science because of the astronomy/astrophysics
but that means i cant fit that in?

[TrueLight]

i guess you could do science ... double majoring in biotechnology and astrophysics if you want or do double degree like  u said... in bio tech you can do chem units http://www.monash.edu.au/pubs/handbooks/aos/sci-ug-biotechnology-sci.html depends what you like and what you want to  do in the future... because im not sure if astrophysics and biomed type stuff is that related but you could still do it..

[methodsman]

ohh jimmy, i just been erading the monash course pages
and... it says for first year i can only pick one of a few
like im 100% sure i wanna do the astronomy 2
does that mean i cant do the physics?

im looking at http://www.monash.edu.au/pubs/handbooks/courses/0085.html
under chemical engineering level one

Select one pair of science units from:

    * ASP1010 Earth to cosmos - introductory astronomy and ASP1022 Life and the universe
    * BIO1011 Biology I and BIO1022 Biology II
    * ESC1011 Planet earth and its environment: the cosmic connection and ESC1022 Planet earth: dynamic systems, environmental change and resources
    * FIT1002 Computer programming and FIT1008 Computer science
    * PHS1011 Physics (or PHS1080 Foundation physics) and PHS1022 Physics
    * STA1010 Statistical methods for science and MTH1112 Numbers, logic and graphs

cos i wanna do foundation physics as well as ASP ones
im sorry for bad explanation

Stay away from FIT1002. It's fcken awful, unless you love programming.

[98.40_for_sure]

Stay away from FIT1002. It's fcken awful, unless you love programming.
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lol yeah i hate anything to do with programming now so stayin the hell away from that shiettt!
i only seem to be interested in ASP1010 ASP1022 ESC1011(only the bit that relates to astronomy) and physics ones

[zhenzhenzhen]

is fit1002 hard? im taking it next sem :S

[jimmy999]

http://www.monash.edu.au/pubs/handbooks/aos/sci-ug-astronomy-and-astrophysics.html

Read through that. It explains what subjects need to be done to get a major in astronomy/astrophysics. By the looks of it you may have to end up doing 2nd year physics to get the major, which if you end up doing sci/eng....won't be able to fit in as you'll need to include a maths minor as well unless you choose not to major in maths (highly recommended to major if you're doing engineering)

However it's still possible to do some units in astronomy, just not all of them

[98.40_for_sure]

if i was going for "purely interest"
i would just do plain bachelor of science and do every astronomy and physics subjects
but engineering is $$$ and seems a waste to let that go =/

[crappy]

if i was going for "purely interest"
i would just do plain bachelor of science and do every astronomy and physics subjects
but engineering is $$$ and seems a waste to let that go =/

Are you just doing it for the money, or are you genuinely interested??