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Science Olympiads
« on: March 13, 2010, 09:57:02 pm »
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Just a thread for all those preparing for the NQEs or alumini of the programs.

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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2010, 09:58:55 pm »
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Just a thread for all those preparing for the NQEs or alumini of the programs.

LOL good on you (we can't keep impeding on the Maths Comps thread :D)
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2010, 10:01:41 pm »
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olympics but for science?
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2010, 10:02:35 pm »
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2010, 10:10:58 pm »
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Exactly! This is how the program works, if you don't want to try and scroll through the website:

Stage 1: Students are selected by their schools to sit the NQEs (National Qualifying Examinations) in physics, chemistry and biology

Students are generally in year 11, but it's certainly possible to sit it in year 10. Most schools heavily restrict the number of students taking the examinations - they're pitched at a level so that only the top 2 or so in an average sized cohort really have a chance at answering more than a handful of questions.

Stage 2: The NQE

These are in around August, and test the concepts underpinning the sciences. A large amount of preparation is recommended for chemistry though - the whole multiple choice section tests knowledge, not reasoning skills. It's also recommended to try and do a few practice problems beforehand to get into the right zone of thinking - the thought processes required differ dramatically from VCE - there's a lot of first principles.

Certificates of High Distinction, Distinction, Credit and Participation are awarded after the NQE. The top 24 or so students across Australia in each science are then invited to participate in the summer school.

Stage 3: The Summer School

2.5 weeks at Monash in January, with around 13 hours of science a day. Students cover approximately the first year university course of their chosen discipline (with many programs extending beyond this), participating in labs and sitting examinations. Students then have about 6 weeks before the Final Selection Exam (FSE), which is used to select the national teams.

Trust me. It's hard.

Stage 4: The teams

The teams then attend another training program at Monash in April, before heading off across the globe to compete in the international biology olympiad (IBO), the international chemistry olympiad (IChO) and the international physics olympiad (IPhO). Physics usually participates in the Asian Pacific Physics Olympiad too.

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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2010, 10:12:57 pm »
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Oh so do you have your FSE soon appianway?

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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2010, 10:14:19 pm »
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Or some schools don't even enter students at all unless the students pester their teachers heaps (*cough cough*)
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2010, 10:15:49 pm »
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I had my FSE. Exactly one week ago.

They're probably marking them as I type. The tutors converge today and tomorrow in Sydney to mark the papers...

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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2010, 10:23:06 pm »
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Hence what I wrote earlier:

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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2010, 10:50:54 pm »
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by the way .. for those sample NQE exams ...
do they have answers?
they look fun ~~~
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« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2010, 11:21:16 pm »
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A large amount of preparation is recommended for chemistry though - the whole multiple choice section tests knowledge, not reasoning skills. It's also recommended to try and do a few practice problems beforehand to get into the right zone of thinking - the thought processes required differ dramatically from VCE - there's a lot of first principles.

How much prep would you need?

My school randomly entered me in along with 10 or so others students. I did no prep whatsoever, as I was only concerned about learning the 1/2 course, and I found I couldn't answer most of the questions. The questions I did answer, I had to rely heavily on first-principles and making connections on the spot, but otherwise, I had no idea about how functional groups were meant to react and how "protective functional groups" were meant to work. LOL I didn't even know what redox reactions were back then, so I got totally raped. Somehow got Distinction >.<.
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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2010, 11:26:46 pm »
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you're a true genius~~
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2010, 09:28:00 am »
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I see they've changed the website and only have 2007-9 papers.
Here's some more for anyone interested :)
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2010, 09:28:43 am »
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And some more :)
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2010, 09:30:42 am »
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And more :)
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