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« Reply #1005 on: October 25, 2016, 09:26:05 pm »
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« Reply #1006 on: October 25, 2016, 10:33:25 pm »
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Just a probability question, want to make sure I'm correct about this.

In how many ways can you arrange 12 people into 3 groups of 4.

Would the answer for this question be 12C4 x 8C4 or (12C4 x 8C4)/ 3!? If its the second one, could you explain why it is divided by 3!?

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1007 on: October 25, 2016, 10:39:16 pm »
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Just a probability question, want to make sure I'm correct about this.

In how many ways can you arrange 12 people into 3 groups of 4.

Would the answer for this question be 12C4 x 8C4 or (12C4 x 8C4)/ 3!? If its the second one, could you explain why it is divided by 3!?

Cheers.
You have to divide by 3! because the groups are not distinguishable.

Group A having members 1,2,3 and group B having members 4,5,6 is the same as group B having members 1,2,3 and group A having members 4,5,6

In general, when you have repetition from indistinguishable cases, you need to divide the repetition out.

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« Reply #1008 on: October 25, 2016, 10:39:59 pm »
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Just a probability question, want to make sure I'm correct about this.

In how many ways can you arrange 12 people into 3 groups of 4.

Would the answer for this question be 12C4 x 8C4 or (12C4 x 8C4)/ 3!? If its the second one, could you explain why it is divided by 3!?

Cheers.

The second one, the reason 3! is divided is to account for the ways the same group of people can permutation between each other.

I'll use a simpler example, say we want to form A B C D into 2 groups of 2. AB and CD is the same as CD and AB, so we will have to divide by 2! to account for that.
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« Reply #1009 on: October 25, 2016, 11:02:44 pm »
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how to do part iii)

This is like the poster child of disgusting questions for Extension 1. It is the 2003 HSC Projectile Question; and probably the most brutal projectile question I know of ;) I haven't done this one in ages, so this will be interesting.

We need to consider two cases here. When \(\alpha=\frac{\pi}{4}\), \(d\) takes its maximum value (this isn't something you need to prove). So, let's roll with that in Part (ii):



Now this is valid so long as the height of the projectile doesn't cause it to hit the roo, ie, \(\text{Height} < H-S\). Let's go to Part (i):



So that's the first half of the answer done! Now we consider other values of \(\alpha\), those which will yield a smaller value for distance. These correspond to v^2\lge4g(H-S). The derivation for this is similar, but use some common sense: What happens to the hright of a projectile as you increase its launch angle?

Now let's tie in to Part (ii):



But from Part (i), that first bit is (H-S):



Applying the square root and then fixing what's inside to match is just to get closer to the form of the answer, and also to apply that pythagorean transformation. Continuing:



Substitute that into the line A, and we have our answer. This is a BRUTAL question, be sure to let me know if this makes sense, because I was very quick with algebra! :)

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1010 on: October 26, 2016, 08:48:31 am »
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Can someone give me a hand with this! Q. Find the coefficient of x^6 in the expansion (1-4x)^2.(2+3x^2)^6

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« Reply #1011 on: October 26, 2016, 09:06:14 am »
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Can someone give me a hand with this! Q. Find the coefficient of x^6 in the expansion (1-4x)^2.(2+3x^2)^6

Sure! First expand the left bracket:



Now, we'll be multiplying everything in our right bracket by these three terms. So, we need to find pairs that work, let's expand the right bracket (you don't have to do the whole thing if you are confident with general terms):



So we pair of each term in the left bracket with something in the right that gives a power of 6; those will be the multiplications that mean something to us. Now \(-8x\) doesn't have a 'buddy' on the right, so we only need:



So there is your coefficient :) hope this helps!

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« Reply #1012 on: October 26, 2016, 09:14:54 am »
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Thanks man!

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« Reply #1013 on: October 26, 2016, 10:24:34 am »
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Hi can someone explain to me how i would differentiate cos^-1 (1/x)?
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« Reply #1014 on: October 26, 2016, 10:27:55 am »
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Hi can someone explain to me how i would differentiate cos^-1 (1/x)?

Hey! These sort of differentials are tough, and you basically need to use the chain rule. Personally, I would just remember this formula rather than the one on your formula sheet



It'll get you the right answer every time!
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« Reply #1015 on: October 26, 2016, 10:33:19 am »
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is there also supposed to be a minus on the numerator, like before f ' (x)?
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« Reply #1016 on: October 26, 2016, 10:44:22 am »
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is there also supposed to be a minus on the numerator, like before f ' (x)?

Yep you're absolutely right, I've just modified my post :)
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« Reply #1017 on: October 26, 2016, 10:55:38 am »
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Last minute question! :'D
I was just wondering... for this question, they said Pr(win) = Pr(lose) in part (i), then how come in part (ii) the win and lose probability becomes different? And also, is there an alternative way of working out part (i)? Thank you!! :)

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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1018 on: October 26, 2016, 11:11:50 am »
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Last minute question! :'D
I was just wondering... for this question, they said Pr(win) = Pr(lose) in part (i), then how come in part (ii) the win and lose probability becomes different? And also, is there an alternative way of working out part (i)? Thank you!! :)
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Re: 3U Maths Question Thread
« Reply #1019 on: October 26, 2016, 12:22:49 pm »
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Just wondering whether i got the answer right for the following question:

"At a football club a team of 11 players is to be chosen from a pool of 30 players consisting of 18 Australian- born and 12 plays born elsewhere. What is the porbability that the team will consist of all Australian-born players?"

would the answer be : 18C11/30C11
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