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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #1395 on: September 29, 2016, 05:59:02 pm »
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alright guys , just a few q's
1) with context, ive got a whole piece set out and memorised. Im wary of writing verbatim on the exam and linking to the prompt, but as a lot of people mentioned on AN, how about do i go adding 'malleable' fragments and ideas to the piece, or even start thinking of a new approach for my context 😭 :'(
i have one relatively malleable idea based piece, but i feel as if i need more, but i dont really know what else i can cover in the Imaginative/Hybrid medium 😭 my context is encountering conflict.

2) if you're not aiming for a particularly high english score, is it pragmatic to just read study guides for each section, particularly section A- Text reponse? esp. if your short on time etc. ? thoughts? i really dont need that high to get into my course, but i still want to try my best etc. so impretty conflicted
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« Reply #1396 on: September 30, 2016, 11:53:20 am »
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If you choose to do All About Eve, then you could get HopefulLawStudent to mark you essay.

Gotten a few PM's asking re: this. So just gonna clarify it all here to save myself the time. Yes, I am actually marking AAE essays for any AN users who ask (esp if you throw in a please cos I tend to be more willing to help people with manners :P), no I'm not crazy, no there is absolutely no catch and I can have essays marked within a week generally.

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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #1397 on: October 01, 2016, 09:33:24 am »
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I have been given conflicting information about this:

Is it better to do timed full essays, or to do timed paragraphs? Like from my experience, some teachers say timed paragraphs well others say paragraphs or say: an intro and a paragraph.

Can you please explain which one is more effective in terms of studying for the English exam? Thanks.  :)

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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #1398 on: October 01, 2016, 10:51:33 am »
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I have been given conflicting information about this:

Is it better to do timed full essays, or to do timed paragraphs? Like from my experience, some teachers say timed paragraphs well others say paragraphs or say: an intro and a paragraph.

Can you please explain which one is more effective in terms of studying for the English exam? Thanks.  :)
Both are excellent!

What are you looking for at this current moment? Is your content fine but your timing isn't? Then Timed conditions it is!
However, if you're not satisfied with the content then don't do timed - no point in writing paragraphs for practice that aren't up to standard :)
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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #1399 on: October 02, 2016, 09:16:26 am »
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Hiyaa!!

For Language Analysis where there are multiple pieces to analyse are we supposed to compare them or analyse them separately? I'm familiar with writing comparatively as that is what we had to do for our Language Analysis SAC.

I've heard conflicting information regarding this so I was hoping one of you peeps could clear it up for me.

Thankkk youuu

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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #1400 on: October 02, 2016, 02:45:57 pm »
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Hiyaa!!

For Language Analysis where there are multiple pieces to analyse are we supposed to compare them or analyse them separately? I'm familiar with writing comparatively as that is what we had to do for our Language Analysis SAC.

I've heard conflicting information regarding this so I was hoping one of you peeps could clear it up for me.

Thankkk youuu


The structure for this is up to your individual taste, but I was taught two different methods.

1. Analyse the pieces by grouping arguments, comparing the articles throughout your response.

2. Analyse the pieces separately and then write 1 - 2 comparative paragraphs at the end.

The first method probably allows for a more sophisticated analysis, and you will have more opportunities to juxtapose/contrast the articles side by side.

Whereas the second method is easier, and probably much easier for an examiner to identify/allocate marks.

You can do excellently with either method, try practising both and then pick the method that you find easiest to execute!
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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #1401 on: October 02, 2016, 03:23:36 pm »
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Quick question,
Is it better to do 3 huge body paragraphs or 4 smaller body paragraphs?
4 I can explore more ideas but 3 I can go into them in greater detail :P

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance!
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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #1402 on: October 02, 2016, 03:35:32 pm »
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Quick question,
Is it better to do 3 huge body paragraphs or 4 smaller body paragraphs?
4 I can explore more ideas but 3 I can go into them in greater detail :P

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance!
I think three excellent paragraphs are much better than four regular paragraphs. I'd be picking my three best ideas and writing a lot on those. :)
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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #1403 on: October 02, 2016, 04:07:00 pm »
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Hi, this is my first time asking a question on ATAR notes,

I just wanted to know, with textual topics that contain a quote in it such as, "I am knifed to the hilt with fate." What does Burial Rites say about the burden of destiny?, does the quote need to be addressed in the essay or should it be ignored? I've been told both things by my teachers so I'm not quite sure what the examiners expect. Could someone help clarify this for me?

Thanks in advance :)

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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #1404 on: October 02, 2016, 05:04:06 pm »
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Hi, this is my first time asking a question on ATAR notes,

I just wanted to know, with textual topics that contain a quote in it such as, "I am knifed to the hilt with fate." What does Burial Rites say about the burden of destiny?, does the quote need to be addressed in the essay or should it be ignored? I've been told both things by my teachers so I'm not quite sure what the examiners expect. Could someone help clarify this for me?

Thanks in advance :)

With topics containing quotes, they must be embedded in you essays, and should not be ignored. Also, it is not just a free quote you can put in your essays anytime.  you need to also show an understanding of the context in which the quote is used in you essay, and what that particular quote means, and what is means for the character, themes and views and values of the text.

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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #1405 on: October 04, 2016, 02:00:48 pm »
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Hi
i have a question my teacher said that we won't get awarded if we compare the language analysis in the exam, is that correct?

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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #1406 on: October 04, 2016, 07:34:25 pm »
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With topics containing quotes, they must be embedded in you essays, and should not be ignored. Also, it is not just a free quote you can put in your essays anytime.  you need to also show an understanding of the context in which the quote is used in you essay, and what that particular quote means, and what is means for the character, themes and views and values of the text.

Thanks FallingStar,

Sorry for the delayed reply but could you possibly explain what you mean in more simpler terms? So, do I have to directly show my knowledge of where the quote comes from and use it in one of my paragraphs in its entirety? If you could please provide an example of what you mean as well, that would be great.

Thanks

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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #1407 on: October 05, 2016, 03:35:21 pm »
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Thanks FallingStar,

Sorry for the delayed reply but could you possibly explain what you mean in more simpler terms? So, do I have to directly show my knowledge of where the quote comes from and use it in one of my paragraphs in its entirety? If you could please provide an example of what you mean as well, that would be great.

Thanks

Basically:
  - Must put the quote in the essay
  - Must know the context of the quote.
  - Must understand how the quote fits in with the text.

(Since I haven't done Burial Rites, I will do All About Eve)
Say if a prompt said Margo says "funny business, a woman's career." All About Eve is about the roles that women must play. Discuss. Then I can say:

Topic Sentence of paragraph extract: In All About Eve, it is evident that women who have careers must eventually marry and give their career up.

By confessing in the car that a "woman's career" is "funny business," Margo realise that she eventually need to succumb to the predefined roles as  a women. She defines these roles as being a wife where she "look up just before bed" to see the man she loves, who is seen to bring her comfort throughout the film. This confession implies that women must eventually marry and become a wife to the man that she loves most, signifying that women are to marry no matter how long they had their careers for, or how many careers they ever has.

Well, I'm not too good at English  :o <gasps> but at least that should give you an idea.

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« Reply #1408 on: October 05, 2016, 03:55:48 pm »
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Basically:
  - Must put the quote in the essay
  - Must know the context of the quote.
  - Must understand how the quote fits in with the text.

(Since I haven't done Burial Rites, I will do All About Eve)
Say if a prompt said Margo says "funny business, a woman's career." All About Eve is about the roles that women must play. Discuss. Then I can say:

Topic Sentence of paragraph extract: In All About Eve, it is evident that women who have careers must eventually marry and give their career up.

By confessing in the car that a "woman's career" is "funny business," Margo realise that she eventually need to succumb to the predefined roles as  a women. She defines these roles as being a wife where she "look up just before bed" to see the man she loves, who is seen to bring her comfort throughout the film. This confession implies that women must eventually marry and become a wife to the man that she loves most, signifying that women are to marry no matter how long they had their careers for, or how many careers they ever has.

Well, I'm not too good at English  :o <gasps> but at least that should give you an idea.

Largely, the aim is to show your engagement with the quote - you don't have to specifically quote it back to your reader (although doing so can show you're analysing the ideas).

If you take the quote you've just mentioned, a strong response would recognise what happens around that quote and how it connects to the second part of the prompt. Here, the remainder of the quote goes to the idea of a woman losing or shedding parts of herself in order to ascend into the show-business stratosphere. So what's crucial is that becoming a star entails sacrificing your femininity. That is, if women need to return to the "role" of being a wife, it's because of the cost to their personal lives and well-being: they cannot hold onto both in this "funny business." If you're able to get to that idea, it will allow you to create a much stronger response to the prompt!

As for Burial Rites, if you got a topic including the "knifed to the hilt with fate" quote (it's one of those really, really quoted ones), then you would ideally deal with the concepts it suggests. That is, Agnes believes that her tragic situation is the product of divine forces and remains outside her control. Find the quote and you'll see she goes a little into religion! It's useful and relevant to deal with the consequences of her belief: the suggestion of violence, and the fact that she believes the knife has been plunged all the way in. Put differently, the suggestion is that she has been metaphorically stabbed: eventually the knife will have to be removed, leading to her inevitable demise. If you focus on the consequences of the quote, and what it tells us more broadly about the text, then you'll be writing a solid, relevant response.

Hope that helps. :)
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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #1409 on: October 05, 2016, 06:36:27 pm »
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Yes, they help.

Thanks FallingStar (again) and TheLlama ;D