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Title: Medea- Citizenship
Post by: clarke54321 on January 12, 2017, 07:37:56 pm
Hey everyone,

Could someone please explain the importance of citizenship in Medea. How is Jason's marriage to Glauce advantageous to his children? What is Medea's deficiency?

Thank-you!
Title: Re: Medea- Citizenship
Post by: HopefulLawStudent on January 12, 2017, 09:06:50 pm
Hey everyone,

Could someone please explain the importance of citizenship in Medea. How is Jason's marriage to Glauce advantageous to his children? What is Medea's deficiency?

Thank-you!

In rudimentary terms:

You is Greek; you is good.

From memory (its been about a year since I touched any background info on Medea though so I may be slightly misinformed):

Ancient Greece was quite a xenophobic society; anyone who wasn't of Greek ethnicity was considered barbarous and an outsider. The Greeks held the view that to be Greek was to be civilised and everyone else couldn't possibly be civilised because they weren't Greek. Medea was from Colchis (i.e. not Greece) and as such she was considered uncivilised. So for Jason it was a matter of choosing between Glauce, the hot new GREEK thing who could enable him to advance his station and status and blah blah blah or Medea, the non-Greek psychopath who'd literally turned her back on everything for him and ofc, he made the obvious decision to choose Glauce the Greek princess. So long as he was with Medea, he couldn't have legitimate Greek sons because in order to gain Greek citizenship then, I think you needed both parents to be Greek citizens?? (Would check for you to be100% sure but dodgy internet atm)

How is Jason's marriage advantageous? You  could argue that much of the part where he argues he had the best interests of his sons and Medea at heart is just rationalisation as he seeks to justify an action that he, to some level, recognises as wrong. From memory, much of his dialogue with Medea when he first arrives to speak to her is quite structured and he uses stuff like "Firstly...","Secondly...", etc which suggest that his argument/justification was someth he'd planned out or at the very least someth he'd mulled over quite a bit to come up with such a coherent and 'reasonable' argument, suggesting that maybe on an emotional level he realises that his actions aren't really that advantageous if he feels the need to justify them and mull them over to himself and his wife.
Title: Re: Medea- Citizenship
Post by: clarke54321 on January 12, 2017, 09:23:43 pm
Thanks for the response!

Just for this part:

So long as he was with Medea, he couldn't have legitimate Greek sons because in order to gain Greek citizenship then, I think you needed both parents to be Greek citizens??

How would Jason marrying Glauce, legitimise his children's citizenship given that Glauce is not the real mother of the children? Sorry, I hope this makes sense.
Title: Re: Medea- Citizenship
Post by: uuuu on January 13, 2017, 12:06:29 pm
Thanks for the response!

Just for this part:

How would Jason marrying Glauce, legitimise his children's citizenship given that Glauce is not the real mother of the children? Sorry, I hope this makes sense.

It wouldn't, but it would allow him to have children, who would be full Greek citizens, with Glauce.
Title: Re: Medea- Citizenship
Post by: meganrobyn on January 13, 2017, 01:59:35 pm
It was acceptable for men at the time to have more than one family, so the contemporary audience wouldn't have seen it as the exact kind of abandonment that we do. Jason says in the play that he marries (at least in part) to rescue them from poverty: Medea is a princess back home, but not in Hellas. Therefore, if he marries Glauce they all can live as one big, wealthy, composite family.