ATAR Notes: Forum
VCE Stuff => Victorian Education Discussion => Topic started by: linahh123 on November 01, 2010, 09:42:32 pm
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I've been so caught up in doing exams that I've forgotten the significance of an ATAR SCORE. After having doubts about my english essays, i spent most of the three hours wondering where i'd end up if i didn't achieve the ATAR score that I wanted. It only occurred to me now, that number wasn't what I really wanted... it was what my parents wanted for me. Now that brings about the common misconception that your atar score determines the success of your future, how much money you're going to make and all aspects of your life in general. I know every1s been trying to predict their results but are we all forgetting why were here? So I'm putting this question out there....What does your ATAR Score mean to you?
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Nothing but an acceptance to my course.
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Nothing but an acceptance to my course.
(Y) I was hoping to hear that.
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An ATAR score for me means that I get into the dream course I want. Of course it isn't the end of the world if that doesnt happen.
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An ATAR score for me means that I get into the dream course I want. Of course it isn't the end of the world if that doesnt happen.
What if your dream course requires 60? Would you be happy with 60?
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An accomplishment. :P
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Very little, if truth be told. I don't know what, where or when I'll be doing at uni. I haven't applied this year, and I honestly have no idea when I will be applying, which country I'll end up doing uni in, or what area I'm going to study. I'm only working hard right now for personal pride i.e. to achieve the best I can, and to keep my options open for the future.
and duxing my school would be nice :)
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overall wat means the most to me for my ATAR is getting into the course i want
other than that, i really want a 90 just cos it sounds good :)
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An ATAR score for me means that I get into the dream course I want. Of course it isn't the end of the world if that doesnt happen.
What if your dream course requires 60? Would you be happy with 60?
Well anyone will feel a tad disappointed if you don't meet your own expectations but I can have the satisfaction of saying I worked my ass off and gave it my all.
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ATAR not that relevant, I have enough SEAS's to sink a ship, hello Access Melbourne Biomedicine with ATAR of 88!
haha Lucky. I only have "underrepresented" status so I doubt that'll do much.
Will just have to get a 98 enter :( Easier said than done unfortunately.
But I want a good ATAR so I can prove that I'm a hard-worker and can do really well (show all the doubters!) and also to satisfy the needs of my course.
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overall wat means the most to me for my ATAR is getting into the course i want
other than that, i really want a 90 just cos it sounds good :)
same here
and yitzi i agree
even if my course was a 70, i want a 90 to give me HARD EVIDENCE that says:
Kotza, the 23847239487 essays you have written, 324854 hours neglected chilling with mates etc has been rearded by a 42.50 ATAR for example.
Im doing it for pride more than to get into my course.
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I really hate it that my family associate people with enter scores =="
They'll be like "do you want to end up like that person who got 60s?" or "work hard and get 90s so you can be successful like that other person". For that reason, i don't even want to tell my family my atar score just to avoid being used as an example for something. Is that bad? :-[
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Not too much, really, on a course entry level.
On a personal level... quite a bit.
This year's really pushing my limits, I'm working as hard as I can to get away from how my parents have ended up living. I think I would be really happy, whatever I got. Testing my limits though... makes me want to do well, if that makes sense.
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I want to get into my course (which needs an 89), but I'm aiming for higher than that...reasons:
-Prove to myself that I am capable of achieving highly
-Pride
-Show up all those arrogant b*****s at school who think they're better than me because they're orange and bleached
-Make my parents proud
-Maybe get a scholarship
Guess I'm just programmed to want to get good marks :S
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I really hate it that my family associate people with enter scores =="
They'll be like "do you want to end up like that person who got 60s?" or "work hard and get 90s so you can be successful like that other person". For that reason, i don't even want to tell my family my atar score just to avoid being used as an example for something. Is that bad? :-[
This makes me sad :( It can be hard to remember that our scores do not define us! I'm sorry that your parents are like this :(
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ya i totes wants a 99.99 :D
nah, that doesn't even exist!
tbh, i dont think the actual number is important, more like as long as it's the one that was the best you could achieve, if ya get me.
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Earlier this year I would have said it would mean something I could be proud of, even just until uni starts. But after a year of sickness, all it means is entry into my course!
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I guess whatever stage of our life we are in, we will always be face be a minority that doubt us in some way, shape or form. You just have to keep on fighting it on and show them that your worth is more than your ATAR score, that you are simply more than a robot who works continuously day and night, that you are someone who actually has feelings and emotions.
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Seeing as I only really started caring about school way too late (end of year 11) I couldn't give a rats ass what I get (as long as I get into 1/top2 of my prefs which is ~90 fml lol).
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Asian parents? LOL
Hm i reckon its a good accomplishment for the end of schooling, To move on with life on a good note. But also of course to get into the course you wanted to. But pretty much after we get into uni, ATAR's wont even matter.
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I really hate it that my family associate people with enter scores =="
They'll be like "do you want to end up like that person who got 60s?" or "work hard and get 90s so you can be successful like that other person". For that reason, i don't even want to tell my family my atar score just to avoid being used as an example for something. Is that bad? :-[
This makes me sad :( It can be hard to remember that our scores do not define us! I'm sorry that your parents are like this :(
i know exactly how this feels
come from an asian family with high expectations. getting into ur course isnt enough, need to have a high ATAR for boasting factor =.=
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Asian parents? LOL
Hm i reckon its a good accomplishment for the end of schooling, To move on with life on a good note. But also of course to get into the course you wanted to. But pretty much after we get into uni, ATAR's wont even matter.
ROFL, so you think. In my family, atar scores are remembered like names. Every1 remembers your atar score and mentions it even 10 years later in everyday conversations!
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I really hate it that my family associate people with enter scores =="
They'll be like "do you want to end up like that person who got 60s?" or "work hard and get 90s so you can be successful like that other person". For that reason, i don't even want to tell my family my atar score just to avoid being used as an example for something. Is that bad? :-[
This makes me sad :( It can be hard to remember that our scores do not define us! I'm sorry that your parents are like this :(
i know exactly how this feels
come from an asian family with high expectations. getting into ur course isnt enough, need to have a high ATAR for boasting factor =.=
to my parents:
high atar= children raised well by parents
i have conflicting beliefs with my parents so it really sucks that they never understand where im coming from.
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When I have children, I vow to let them follow their dreams, whatever they may be and not let them get weighed down by the pressure of achieving a high ATAR.
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When I have children, I vow to let them follow their dreams, whatever they may be and not let them get weighed down by the pressure of achieving a high ATAR.
LOL, nearly every asian i know is following that ^
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The number of problems I have, that a girl is not one of.
(99)
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Unfortunately my first 3 preferences all require 90+ ATAR's, and one of them in the high 90s, so it is important to an extent.
But I don't need that extra push for 99.90.
I'm sure if I had worked hard all year I would definitely be capable of it, but there is really no need, plus I've managed to achieve some other things through the year which will mean more for me :)
Otherwise it is to allow my mum to give a big fuck you to all my family friends who will undoubtedly give a call just to "catch up" on the day of results.
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Add some Jay-Z to your diet.
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Asian parents? LOL
Hm i reckon its a good accomplishment for the end of schooling, To move on with life on a good note. But also of course to get into the course you wanted to. But pretty much after we get into uni, ATAR's wont even matter.
ROFL, so you think. In my family, atar scores are remembered like names. Every1 remembers your atar score and mentions it even 10 years later in everyday conversations!
ahhahahha omg i know wat thats like
my grandparents have remembered each one of my brother and cousins ATARS to the exact decimal. my couisin didnt do too well and they havent let him live it down even tho its been a year and hes in uni
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First of all entry to course.
Then a scholarship.
Initially I was aiming for 99.95, to get the best scholarship - $60,000 worth(12,000 pa.).
But that is too unrealistic, so I don't need that high.
Other than this, ATAR means nothing. Whilst there is some correlation between high ATAR scores and high intelligence, it is not a very good test, I believe.
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Unfortunately my first 3 preferences all require 90+ ATAR's, and one of them in the high 90s, so it is important to an extent.
But I don't need that extra push for 99.90.
I'm sure if I had worked hard all year I would definitely be capable of it, but there is really no need, plus I've managed to achieve some other things through the year which will mean more for me :)
Otherwise it is to allow my mum to give a big fuck you to all my family friends who will undoubtedly give a call just to "catch up" on the day of results.
my mums "friend" did this on the exact day of mid year results and hasnt called since
needless to say, i had to somewhat lie about my result....
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I think for most people its just the number they have to scrape to get into their course.
I haven't built up some big arbitrary number or goal, i just want what will get me into my course, anything after that and im happy...
I can't understand personally why people build it up to be anything other than this
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Sigh this is a question I have been struggling with, and asking myself this question made me lose motivation to do VCE for half of term 3. I still think...it doesn't really mean anything. My recent spurt of motivations is just to own exams as hard as I can.
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To me, my ATAR score is just a...shortcut, you could say, to help me get into my dream course; medicine. As long as I'd be able to get in to med, even if I get an atar of 0.05 or 99.95, I'd still be happy.
I still feel I want to do really well both this year and next year though, as not only would it help me get into my course, but also as a sort of.. challenge, a hurdle; if I can overcome this wall with no regrets knowing that I have tried my utter best, then I will be happy and feel that I have succeeded.
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To me, my ATAR score is just a...shortcut, you could say, to help me get into my dream course; medicine. As long as I'd be able to get in to med, even if I get an atar of 0.05 or 99.95, I'd still be happy.
I still feel I want to do really well both this year and next year though, as not only would it help me get into my course, but also as a sort of.. challenge, a hurdle; if I can overcome this wall with no regrets knowing that I have tried my utter best, then I will be happy and feel that I have succeeded.
ROFL, you're awesome kid. Keep it up! Do you have an older brother by any chance? jk jk.
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atar means jack shit to me since getting into my dream course is over, so thanks to one number, i now get to add another 2 years minimum to get where I want to be...
ever since i got my umat mark back, i just stopped giving a shit...there was no point stressing or trying too much anymore, because it wasn't going to make any difference...
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To me, my ATAR score is just a...shortcut, you could say, to help me get into my dream course; medicine. As long as I'd be able to get in to med, even if I get an atar of 0.05 or 99.95, I'd still be happy.
I still feel I want to do really well both this year and next year though, as not only would it help me get into my course, but also as a sort of.. challenge, a hurdle; if I can overcome this wall with no regrets knowing that I have tried my utter best, then I will be happy and feel that I have succeeded.
ROFL, you're awesome kid. Keep it up! Do you have an older brother by any chance? jk jk.
LOL I DO O_O
He's my number one source of motivation :D such an awesome bro seriously, motivates me so much haha.
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"I'm pressured because of my azn parents"
-I hate this answer because it shows that you are weak enough to conform to this pressure and are not able to challenge their thinking. This should be the generation changes the asian mentality.
PS. I'm an asian
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"I'm pressured because of my azn parents"
-I hate this answer because it shows that you are weak enough to conform to this pressure and are not able to challenge their thinking. This should be the generation changes the asian mentality.
PS. I'm an asian
couldnt agree more
in china, there are less opportunities for the masses to become successful, thus parents push their kids
this is australia, losers with 5 IQ can become millionaire tradies... so i dont see why asian parents still have this mentality that "im going to push my kid to do the asian 5 and have no life whatsoever." Sure parents want the ebst for us, but the best in a broad concept. It encompasses everything, not just the age old belief that "he is achieving a 99% average in school and therefore he is happy." It doesnt work like that.
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i too am extremely pissed off at parents who push their kids to do med and law against their will...
this crap should somehow be banned!
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Bad luck on UMAT stonecold, I feel for ya. Just try your best and enjoy uni - biomed/science aren't bad courses in themselves either! You will eventually get to med anyways. :) Anyone can do ANYTHING if they put their mind to it. Impossible is nothing.
Never give up.
The worst thing for us now is to finish VCE with regrets.
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Bad luck on UMAT stonecold, I feel for ya. Just try your best and enjoy uni - biomed/science aren't bad courses in themselves either! You will eventually get to med anyways. :) Anyone can do ANYTHING if they put their mind to it. Impossible is nothing.
Never give up.
The worst thing for us now is to finish VCE with regrets.
I couldnt agree with you more mate. Guys, try and remember all the hard work that you have put in throughout the year and appreciate the fact that you've tried to be the best that you can be. Theres nothing more you can do but hope that everything falls into place when the time comes :)
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Bad luck on UMAT stonecold, I feel for ya. Just try your best and enjoy uni - biomed/science aren't bad courses in themselves either! You will eventually get to med anyways. :) Anyone can do ANYTHING if they put their mind to it. Impossible is nothing.
Never give up.
The worst thing for us now is to finish VCE with regrets.
I couldnt agree with you more mate. Guys, try and remember all the hard work that you have put in throughout the year and appreciate the fact that you've tried to be the best that you can be. Theres nothing more you can do but hope that everything falls into place when the time comes :)
Yep; life is just life. Some times you'll fail, other times you'll succeed. Just how far you go in life depends on how you PERSEVERE. Fall down 19 times, get back up 20.
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why do they call it atar now? Wat was wrong with enter? Atar sounds like avatar :P
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why do they call it atar now? Wat was wrong with enter? Atar sounds like avatar :P
lol ATAR reminds me of some sort of dinosaur :P
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ATAR is an acronym for Australian Tertiary Admissions Rank. All states have moved to this name and some, such as NSW, have actually had a change on their scoring system. (Under the UAI(old NSW 'enter') it was possible to get 100 and there were some discrepancies in the population which you are ranked against).
For Victoria it was simply a name change, as they move forward with the national curriculum.
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I don't really care what my atar is to be honest. I'd like a 95.4+ so that I can stay competitve at UWS and UNCLE med but I won't mind too much if it isn't good enough, I lost all interest in VCE a while ago.
@ stonecold, do sci then nonstandard utas uncle uws with me :D.
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Proving to myself that I can do it and do it well :P
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atar means jack shit to me since getting into my dream course is over, so thanks to one number, i now get to add another 2 years minimum to get where I want to be...
ever since i got my umat mark back, i just stopped giving a shit...there was no point stressing or trying too much anymore, because it wasn't going to make any difference...
I feel your pain....
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It's wide open.
Just tap it in, just tap it in.
You're doing fine.
ALL you have to do is tap it in.
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IM 7 OVER PAR HELP
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Recognition that I'm not brilliant...suppose it killed my childhood delusions of being the person that would be 'perfect' and achieve whatver I like
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It's wide open.
Just tap it in, just tap it in.
You're doing fine.
ALL you have to do is tap it in.
If you keep playing the game* and if you don't know where you are going, any road will get you there.
*game = life.
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Recognition that I'm not brilliant...suppose it killed my childhood delusions of being the person that would be 'perfect' and achieve whatver I like
You still can achieve what you like!
Work hard and you will get it
"The greatest enemy of best is "good". If you're willing to accept "good" you'll never be the "best"."
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My ATAR means jack to me, as it will mean jack to everyone else in 2 years time. Literally jack.
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Recognition that I'm not brilliant...suppose it killed my childhood delusions of being the person that would be 'perfect' and achieve whatver I like
You still can achieve what you like!
Work hard and you will get it
"The greatest enemy of best is "good". If you're willing to accept "good" you'll never be the "best"."
Love that quote :)
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ATAR not that relevant, I have enough SEAS's to sink a ship, hello Access Melbourne Biomedicine with ATAR of 88!
hahhahaa
mum is desperate for me to get access melbourne!
im struggling to have enough seas :(
but lets hope i can get 91.2+
and beat my brother and never live it down!
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ATAR not that relevant, I have enough SEAS's to sink a ship, hello Access Melbourne Biomedicine with ATAR of 88!
hahhahaa
mum is desperate for me to get access melbourne!
im struggling to have enough seas :(
but lets hope i can get 91.2+
and beat my brother and never live it down!
Haha nothing like a bit of sibling rivalry.
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ATAR not that relevant, I have enough SEAS's to sink a ship, hello Access Melbourne Biomedicine with ATAR of 88!
hahhahaa
mum is desperate for me to get access melbourne!
im struggling to have enough seas :(
but lets hope i can get 91.2+
and beat my brother and never live it down!
Haha nothing like a bit of sibling rivalry.
i was studying with him at melb uni yesterday
(he's doing his masters of finance there)
and he started calculating what id get
and hes like lets be as negative as we can here
and rips out a score of 85.2...
im like yeh no dreaming, thats if i like fail all my exams
im pretty sure im going to just miss out on 90+
it'll hurt so much..
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My ATAR means whether I get a Scholarship to Monash or not.. Judging by the way exams are going, it seems like its fading away. Guess I'll just settle for an entrance, bearing in mind that I'm one of the few fortunate people able to attend University to study the course I want.
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I think for most people its just the number they have to scrape to get into their course.
I haven't built up some big arbitrary number or goal, i just want what will get me into my course, anything after that and im happy...
I can't understand personally why people build it up to be anything other than this
I feel very much the same, I couldn't give a damn if I got less than 60 and get into a desired course
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That i'm better than 99.95% of all of you.
Seriously, obviously the course but I think myself and alot of others may see it as an accomplishment if they get a score well above their desired course.
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for me its being the only successful family member in the country
most family is overseas and i dunno what theyre feeding them over there but theyre all getting into uni (i have no uni family here), i have a cousin who got a scholarship to cambridge university in england for maths, hes 24 and finishing hes masters or something (in other words a genius).
my australian based family academic achievements are well, crap. a sister who went to uni for 6 months before dropping out, cousin who got a atar of ~62 and now works are target....and then me. yay for pressure! so now i pretty much have the pressure of having to overcome my genetic disadvantage, get not only into uni but melbourne uni to match the overseas family and do whatever it takes to get the term "Dr." in my name.
story of my life
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I really don't understand why people are willing to trade off life for a score which they don't even need. Many people's year 12 can be summarised as "study, study, study ..", and they sacrifice everything else. Even people who's required ATAR could comfortably be achieved without stripping their life away.. to me this is a fully perplexing enigma.
:uglystupid2:
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I really don't understand why people are willing to trade off life for a score which they don't even need. Many people's year 12 can be summarised as "study, study, study ..", and they sacrifice everything else. Even people who's required ATAR could comfortably be achieved without stripping their life away.. to me this is a fully perplexing enigma.
:uglystupid2:
+1
It all comes down to a sense of pride in the end as well the feeling of easily getting into your course rather than scraping in makes it more enjoyable for them.
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my science course at monash requires a 75.6
if i got an 80 should i be happy?
i mean, i obviously want higher but at the end of the day my score means i get into my course
so should i just be grateful that i got in?
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scatteam you should be happy then, If that applied to me I would. Couldnt care about 90 if I only needed 70 for instance
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shows me how hard i worked in the last 13 years LOL :uglystupid2: more of a pride thing.. I guess no one remembers about the ENTER tho when they're in the mid twenties with a good, well paid job.
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That the hard work paid off - and getting into the course.
Nothing less, nothing more.
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Pride.
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overall wat means the most to me for my ATAR is getting into the course i want
other than that, i really want a 90 just cos it sounds good :)
This was pretty much me and I was 00.55 off my goal of getting a 90.
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I aim for 99.95, because I know I can pull it off if I put my mind to it, and even if I don't reach the top, whatever score I get in the end will be what I deserve for giving it my best shot.
I am confident that I'll have the score needed for the courses I'm interested in, but I'm really hoping for a scholarship, so I'm giving it my all.
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Nothing but an acceptance to my course.
Same here
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Interesting discussion. For me it's a different thing entirely. My course is about 30 below my ATAR but it's irrelevant. It's more the process of education that I'm interested in, and the benefits extracted from it. The ATAR is very much an outcome of the work throughout the year for me. But it's not like it's meaningless, I do care about it. I uncomfortably use it in some way to signify that work that I did because inherent in my character is a greed for results and success accompanying a want for knowledge.
Sounds like I'll have to blog about this...
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Dignity, as I found out..
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I have no respect for the ATAR.
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lol and by drinking good, you have no respect for your body!
Excuse me?
Show me any research evidence that supports the idea that goon does any worse to your body than other alcoholic drinks.
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lol, everyone's saying pride
Pride is one of the seven deadly sins! :o
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Pride for sure! Proving to everybody that you can achieve whatever you put your mind on.
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Atar is a disposable key that will mean fuck all in...3 months time.
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Atar [...] will mean nothing in...1 months time.
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Untrue. First week of uni people use ATAR to judge how smart you are.
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I assumed you were talking about your REAL ATAR. In the first week you can say whatever you like ;)
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ATAR means absolutely nothing to me.
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Nothing but entrance to my course. What the hell else could it mean to someone?
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The ATAR will only mean something to me until VTAC takes over, after that, its just another rational number (lol, image if your ATAR was in surd form... sqrt(9990) ~ 99.95!)
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I think I might say I got a lower ATAR at uni just for the LOL. I mean, what's the diff? 99+ or 95+, my course required ~ 95 so honestly...... does it matter, we're all in the same boat kiddies.
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Nothing but entrance to my course. What the hell else could it mean to someone?
+1.
An ATAR is not a representation of who you are, your personal achievements (and I must awfully admit, personality. I know of an extremely rude person who scored 99 who bragged. Like, literally a boast festival... you know). Other than that, it could reflect on one's hard working habits in order to achieve a high score. Sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it does.
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Well, if someone got a high ATAR and had alot of personal struggle I'd respect them alot.
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Well, if someone got a high ATAR and had alot of personal struggle I'd respect them alot.
And this too.
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Nothing but entrance to my course. What the hell else could it mean to someone?
+1.
An ATAR is not a representation of who you are, your personal achievements (and I must awfully admit, personality. I know of an extremely rude person who scored 99 who bragged. Like, literally a boast festival... you know). Other than that, it could reflect on one's hard working habits in order to achieve a high score. Sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it does.
=/ I don't see the point of talking about ATAR anymore now that VCE is over. But I guess I can understand the bragger - he must be extremely proud of his ATAR score, and it can be hard to restrain from bragging when you have that mindset.
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Nothing but entrance to my course. What the hell else could it mean to someone?
+1.
An ATAR is not a representation of who you are, your personal achievements (and I must awfully admit, personality. I know of an extremely rude person who scored 99 who bragged. Like, literally a boast festival... you know). Other than that, it could reflect on one's hard working habits in order to achieve a high score. Sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it does.
=/ I don't see the point of talking about ATAR anymore now that VCE is over. But I guess I can understand the bragger - he must be extremely proud of his ATAR score, and it can be hard to restrain from bragging when you have that mindset.
Nah this appeared up when someone commented recently so I thought to add an opinion to it.
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ima tell every slut in uni i got a 99.95 lulz.
Nah, but seriously. ATAR means nothing to me now that it's all over.
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ima tell every slut in uni i got a 99.95 lulz.
That will definitely work! ;D
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I guess I'm proud of the ATAR score I achieved, especially considering the fact that I went a very average school. But I'm casual about it normally, I tell people what I got if they ask me but never brag.
After all, there are many other facets of life besides academic achievement.
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Untrue. First week of uni people use ATAR to judge how smart you are.
Wow if anyone actually uses the ATAR to judge how "smart" you are, they are pretty superficial and I would avoid them.
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I guess I'm proud of the ATAR score I achieved, especially considering the fact that I went a very average school. But I'm casual about it normally, I tell people what I got if they ask me but never brag.
After all, there are many other facets of life besides academic achievement.
X.X If I can, I like to avoid talking about my ATAR.
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A physical memoir of my dedication this year..
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I can't believe you XD