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Text response - Medea
« on: January 22, 2017, 10:30:48 pm »
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Hello there.

Can someone please mark my Medea essay, and give it a score out of 10? Be as harsh you like, even I acknowledge that it's pretty crap. It's also unfinished for that same reason; I reread it half way through and realised that it was shiiiitttttttt so I gave up. Also, some questions if not too much of a hassle.

Prompt: “You women are all the same.” To what extent are Jason’s judgments validated in Medea?

Although set in a patriarchal society, the female namesake of Euripides’ Medea defies what is expected of her gender. In doing so, she differs herself from other women of her society who otherwise accept such roles.

For one, Medea rejects motherhood. In light of news that she is to be exiled alone, Medea expresses regret over her children’s existence as they were “all for nothing”. From this, and her consequent repeated use of the word “I”, audiences may infer that her children were merely of personal gain. All love she shows is thus presumed to be absent, and what is presented as a facade to further her own personal pursuits. This lovelessness however contradicts the Chorus’, in essence her society’s, image of loving mother. Warning Medea of the consequences that her infanticide will have on her “heart”, it could be deduced that the Chorus is suggestive of Medea’s child-mother relationship being founded on the love for her children. Therein, an expectation that mothers should love their children is implied; Medea in defiance hence rejects such role. This is in turn however contrary to the female expectation that Medea embraces the maternal duty. Euripides implies as such through the Chorus’ use of the word “women” in referring to Medea’s motherly role, suggesting that women are inherently mothers, thus setting an expectation that they are so. Thus by rejecting

Medea also does not accept her sufferings without retribution. Seeking “pain and sorrow” for her “treat[ment]”, she emerges unrepentant in her “wicked” vengeance. In placing Jason as “cause”, and reasoning that she suffers not as his “mockery is silenced’, Medea claims no responsibility for her actions. This remorselessness towards immorality could thus imply her refusal to be wronged, and the extremity of such too. However, it is her society’s expectation that she accepts these wrongdoings without retaliation. Evident in Jason’s affirmation that Medea abandoning her rage for his actions is the “superior way of thinking”, Euripides implies that her society saw Jason’s actions as correct. Medea in effect should accept them without response, regardless of the suffering it causes her

However, Medea’s portrayal as superior to men is what ultimately differs her from other women. “Assuming a posture of helplessness”, she successfully manipulates Aegeus into granting her his “country’s protection”, him doing so with promise of fertility. However by doing such, it could be implied that Aegeus foresaw Medea’s need for sanctuary to escape punishment, and thus too her treacherous actions. He is in turn seen as a man blinded by desire; forsaking moral and reason for passion, he willingly offers protection for an undeserving criminal. It is as such through Medea’s manipulation as cause, that her superiority is highlighted. In addition, Medea also receives divine approval. Escaping punishment with a “chariot” of “the Sun”, the play’s deux ex machina indicates the great extent of support Medea had from the gods, as without it she would have faced certain peril. In contrast with Jason’s unanswered prayers, a deeply religious Greek audience would consequently see Medea as superior to Jason.

In the end, Medea’s disobedience of gender expectations makes her a unique woman of her patriarchal society. It as when Jason states that “all women are the same”, basing this assumption off Medea, that his thinking is founded on false grounds. Her rejection, of what is uncommonly rejected, in consequent comes unexpectedly to the play’s characters, often leading to their peril. Through this, Euripides castigates societies like Medea’s for their inherent flaws.

Questions
- Should I plonk in an argument about how she's like other women of her society, right in between my 2nd and 3rd?
- How do I improve my vocab? As not in improve, but use? I usually know the word but it just takes forever to fetch from the recesses of my brain.
- How do I write conclusions lol (unless what I have is correct, then never mind  :P)
- Is my first body paragraph (it's just missing a concluding sentence) sufficient in terms of content and length?
- How can my expression be stronger? I feel like it's a bit choppy and not flow-y enough.

Thanks in advance for all help.  :) :)

« Last Edit: January 22, 2017, 10:41:36 pm by helloeveryone »

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Re: Text response - Medea
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2017, 09:02:14 pm »
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Hello there.

Can someone please mark my Medea essay, and give it a score out of 10? Be as harsh you like, even I acknowledge that it's pretty crap. It's also unfinished for that same reason; I reread it half way through and realised that it was shiiiitttttttt so I gave up. Also, some questions if not too much of a hassle.

Prompt: “You women are all the same.” To what extent are Jason’s judgments validated in Medea?

Although set in a patriarchal society, the female namesake of Euripides’ Medea defies what is expected of her gender. In doing so, she differs herself from other women of her society who otherwise accept such roles.

For one, Medea rejects motherhood. In light of news that she is to be exiled alone, Medea expresses regret over her children’s existence as they were “all for nothing”. From this, and her consequent repeated use of the word “I”, audiences may infer that her children were merely of personal gain. All love she shows is thus presumed to be absent, and what is presented as a facade to further her own personal pursuits. This lovelessness however contradicts the Chorus’, in essence her society’s, image of loving mother. Warning Medea of the consequences that her infanticide will have on her “heart”, it could be deduced that the Chorus is suggestive of Medea’s child-mother relationship being founded on the love for her children. Therein, an expectation that mothers should love their children is implied; Medea in defiance hence rejects such role. This is in turn however contrary to the female expectation that Medea embraces the maternal duty. Euripides implies as such through the Chorus’ use of the word “women” in referring to Medea’s motherly role, suggesting that women are inherently mothers, thus setting an expectation that they are so. Thus by rejecting

Medea also does not accept her sufferings without retribution. Seeking “pain and sorrow” for her “treat[ment]”, she emerges unrepentant in her “wicked” vengeance. In placing Jason as “cause”, and reasoning that she suffers not as his “mockery is silenced’, Medea claims no responsibility for her actions. This remorselessness towards immorality could thus imply her refusal to be wronged, and the extremity of such too. However, it is her society’s expectation that she accepts these wrongdoings without retaliation. Evident in Jason’s affirmation that Medea abandoning her rage for his actions is the “superior way of thinking”, Euripides implies that her society saw Jason’s actions as correct. Medea in effect should accept them without response, regardless of the suffering it causes her

However, Medea’s portrayal as superior to men is what ultimately differs her from other women. “Assuming a posture of helplessness”, she successfully manipulates Aegeus into granting her his “country’s protection”, him doing so with promise of fertility. However by doing such, it could be implied that Aegeus foresaw Medea’s need for sanctuary to escape punishment, and thus too her treacherous actions. He is in turn seen as a man blinded by desire; forsaking moral and reason for passion, he willingly offers protection for an undeserving criminal. It is as such through Medea’s manipulation as cause, that her superiority is highlighted. In addition, Medea also receives divine approval. Escaping punishment with a “chariot” of “the Sun”, the play’s deux ex machina indicates the great extent of support Medea had from the gods, as without it she would have faced certain peril. In contrast with Jason’s unanswered prayers, a deeply religious Greek audience would consequently see Medea as superior to Jason.

In the end, Medea’s disobedience of gender expectations makes her a unique woman of her patriarchal society. It as when Jason states that “all women are the same”, basing this assumption off Medea, that his thinking is founded on false grounds. Her rejection, of what is uncommonly rejected, in consequent comes unexpectedly to the play’s characters, often leading to their peril. Through this, Euripides castigates societies like Medea’s for their inherent flaws.

Questions
- Should I plonk in an argument about how she's like other women of her society, right in between my 2nd and 3rd?
- How do I improve my vocab? As not in improve, but use? I usually know the word but it just takes forever to fetch from the recesses of my brain.
- How do I write conclusions lol (unless what I have is correct, then never mind  :P)
- Is my first body paragraph (it's just missing a concluding sentence) sufficient in terms of content and length?
- How can my expression be stronger? I feel like it's a bit choppy and not flow-y enough.

Thanks in advance for all help.  :) :)

I think the main problem of this essay, from what I've read (I've only skimmed over it) is that the introduction and the first body paragraph fail to address the part of the prompt that states "To what extent are Jason’s judgments validated in Medea". I feel like in the introduction you should immediately start to address the prompt. Even in the conclusion you fail to address this part of the prompt, which I believe is a major flaw in this essay.

I think that if you want to improve your use of vocabulary, you should write more and you will naturally begin to use more sophisticated vocabulary. For your conclusion, I think you should say the main point of your essay (if you agree or disagree with the prompt and why) and possibly summarise your arguments.

I feel like your expression is choppy because of the way you structure your sentences.
Here are 2 examples of 2 really awkward sounding sentences.
"Her rejection, of what is uncommonly rejected, in consequent comes unexpectedly to the play’s characters, often leading to their peril."

I think that the "in consequent" sounds weird here (just my opinion). Also I feel like the point of the sentence is clouded because there are too many pieces of information in one sentence, making it seem cluttered.

“Assuming a posture of helplessness”, she successfully manipulates Aegeus into granting her his “country’s protection”, him doing so with promise of fertility.

This sentence flows well until the part where you write "him doing so with promise of fertility". I think that the "him doing so" makes the sentence clunky and you might be able to drop it and say that "she successfully manipulates Aegeus into granting her his “country’s protection”, with a promise of fertility."

Like I always say, take my advice with a grain of salt, as I'm going into year 12 and I'm facing the same problems as everyone else.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2017, 12:01:56 am by zhen »

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Re: Text response - Medea
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2017, 09:11:50 pm »
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Re: Text response - Medea
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2017, 11:04:59 am »
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Question; with prompts like these do you specifically have to reference the character's quote?
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Re: Text response - Medea
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2017, 07:01:47 pm »
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Question; with prompts like these do you specifically have to reference the character's quote?

For prompts like this, I would reference the quote once and explore what it means, but I think after that it's ok just to explore the theme of women in society and the ideas associated with it, without actively referencing the quote every time you explore those themes. Don't take my word for it, since I'm not an expert on these types of things.

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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2017, 08:14:25 pm »
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Question; with prompts like these do you specifically have to reference the character's quote?

To add onto zhen's brilliant feedback/advice:

Quotes are always provided for a reason. Oftentimes they are there to guide your analysis and should therefore be referenced or used in some context within your response; typically, teachers advise students to try to insert the quote somehow into their first body paragraph but I suspect this is merely a matter of preference and a means by which you can guarantee you don't forget the quote entirely.

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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2017, 09:00:12 pm »
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To add onto zhen's brilliant feedback/advice:

Quotes are always provided for a reason. Oftentimes they are there to guide your analysis and should therefore be referenced or used in some context within your response; typically, teachers advise students to try to insert the quote somehow into their first body paragraph but I suspect this is merely a matter of preference and a means by which you can guarantee you don't forget the quote entirely.

Thank you HLS! It seems like the crux of what's wrong with this essay is how I've approached the topic. Do you have suggestions of any another ways that I could take? Strength-wise, are my current arguments that good? Also, do you think what I've wrote for my first paragraph is sufficient enough (there's the linking sentence missing though)?

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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2017, 08:55:12 pm »
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Thank you HLS! It seems like the crux of what's wrong with this essay is how I've approached the topic. Do you have suggestions of any another ways that I could take? Strength-wise, are my current arguments that good? Also, do you think what I've wrote for my first paragraph is sufficient enough (there's the linking sentence missing though)?

I think you should talk about how Jason's actions are/aren't justified, and relate this to his argument against Medea that she is wrong and when he critiques women.

I think this is a good passage to relate your argument to.
 "If you could govern your sex-jealousy. But you women

Have reached a state where, if all’s well with your sex-life,

You’ve everything you wish for; but when that goes wrong,

At once all that is best and noblest turns to gall.

If only children could be got some other way,

Without the female sex! If women didn’t exist,

Human life would be rid of all its miseries."
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2017, 09:01:40 pm »
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I think you should talk about how Jason's actions are/aren't justified, and relate this to his argument against Medea that she is wrong and when he critiques women.

In addition to zhen,
I believe you can also talk about the similarities between the other women in the Greek society in relation to Medea (for ie. Pelias' daughters can be compared to Medea, as they are both emotional driven, and want revenge for being deceived/ betrayed). However, don't only focus on comparing other women with Medea, you also need to prove it, as the second half of the prompt talks about how valid Jason's statement is.
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2017, 09:42:38 pm »
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Thanks both zhen and Syndicate! I have more one more question though: how do I discuss the validity/justification of Jason's statement? Do I talk about the flaws of his argument and how arrogant (?) he is in the delivery of it? I'm a bit confused.

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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2017, 10:02:54 pm »
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Thanks both zhen and Syndicate! I have more one more question though: how do I discuss the validity/justification of Jason's statement? Do I talk about the flaws of his argument and how arrogant (?) he is in the delivery of it? I'm a bit confused.
I think you should discuss if you think that the play Medea shows whether Jason is correct in his statement. So, you can discuss the flaws in his argument and show how the play supports or opposes his argument. I think that a good starting point would be when Medea said that if Jason really cared and wanted to help his family, he would have discussed the marriage with Medea beforehand.

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I think you should discuss if you think that the play Medea shows whether Jason is correct in his statement. So, you can discuss the flaws in his argument and show how the play supports or opposes his argument. I think that a good starting point would be when Medea said that if Jason really cared and wanted to help his family, he would have discussed the marriage with Medea beforehand.

Righto! Thanks  :) :)

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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2017, 12:39:09 pm »
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Thanks both zhen and Syndicate! I have more one more question though: how do I discuss the validity/justification of Jason's statement? Do I talk about the flaws of his argument and how arrogant (?) he is in the delivery of it? I'm a bit confused.

I believe you can also discuss Jason's claims by talking about the tragedy itself. The situation (when Jason said this statement) was when he finds out that his two sons have been murdered by Medea, so from this we can already assume that Jason had an aggressive tone. And from this, it can also be assumed that he meant to say "all women" are evil (he was demeaning Medea and other women in the society), and I guess you can you prove this by discussing the fact that Medea committed other crimes by means of trickery (ie. murdered Pelias, betrayed her own nation/ father etc...).

If you are going against the prompt, then I guess you can discuss why Medea committed those crimes (Jason's influence on Medea's emotion, which basically controlled her actions), and then compare her to Glauce, who on the other hand was different to Medea, as she showed sympathy towards Jason's sons.
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